Solve this Riddle if you can

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ivandh

Indeed it is water, which can of course break glass in the form of say, a tsunami, or water freezing solid inside a glass. Obviously, pretty much anything that can knock down a building can also break the glass inside that building. (Incidentally, can anyone think of something that fits the first line absolutely, without regard to satisfy the second?)

The key point, then, is to go to the other clues, fit those first, and then come up with some rationale to explain this contradiction: in common experience and for most practical purposes, water cannot break glass, either as rain against a window or when you pour it into a glass.

Most people did in fact use this technique but either neglected this or some other clue completely, and as a result did not hit upon the mostly correct answer. The most significant was the stairs bit, which is what I felt gave it away, but it seems that most people did not attach enough importance to this crucial piece.

LoekBergman

It is not possible that something that can break a building yet not break glass. Simply because there is a lot of glass used in buildings and if the force could not break glass that the building would keep standing.

In common experience water can not break a building either and if you look at some drawings of Esher then can you see that water is able to walk upstairs. If exceptions should be used to understand the riddle, then could you say that if in some situations water can break a building that in those exact same situations water can walk up a stairs (for sure when the stairs are in a sinking ship).

Anyhow, I like it that you came up with a riddle made by yourself. It also shows how difficult it is. I will try it too.

It is inner processing is chaotic, its results are utmost precise,

it is strictly governed by laws, which are not made humanwise,

it is a really cool working time independent device.

What is it?

Kikyo_Sushi

clock or watch ? Tongue Out

LoekBergman

Kikyo_Sushi: the first line states that it has a chaotic internal processing. I would not think of that with a clock or watch in general, do you?

Gil-Gandel
learningthemoves wrote:

This one turns up in various places on the internet, with no solution. I'll be interested to see if we get one this time.

Oxygen or "air".

1.It's "the key to life and death" because you must breathe to live or you will die.

2. "If you do not find it in your house you will find it nowhere" because if you don't have air to breathe in your house, you won't live to go anywhere else.

3."It's before everyone's eyes; No one can live without it; everyone has used it..."

Again, we all must breathe.

4."The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets..."

The poor usually have less resources to shelter themselves from the elements including hot air in the summer and are more exposed to it.

Children play with it in the streets. Children who grow up poor must learn to use the air as a "prop" as they pretend. For example, the child who flaps their arms in the air and says they are flying are really just pretending to fly and are using the air around them as a prop to represent the sky.

5. "The meek and uneducated esteem it highly but the rich often throw it away"...

The meek and uneducated esteem cooled air during the summer and heated air during the winter highly for reasons of comfort and yet the rich often use it wastefully without the need to conserve it as much because they can afford to pay for the heated or cooled air whenever they like without having to worry about running out of resources like kerosene fuel for heated air or freon gas for cooled air, etc.

6. "When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth..."

When we breathe in oxygen, the human body "rejects" or exhales the rest of the air in the form of carbon dioxide which is absorbed by trees, plants and ultimately back into the earth and below its surface. When we burn fuels, the carbon dioxide gas goes back to lie dormant in the bowels of the earth where it collects for millions of years too.

"It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."

The Philosopher's Stone had to do with alchemy and was broken into 4 main elements:

1.Air

2.Fire

3.Earth

4.Water

By definition, The noble metals are metals that are resistant to corrosion and oxidation in moist air, unlike most base metals

Therefore, if the metals do not have moist *air* from which to resist corrosion and oxidation, they would be just like base metals and wouldn't be considered noble metals.

So for these reasons and justifications, I submit to you the answer, "Air".

Not bad. I respectfully submit however that:

2. In the entire history of mankind, I would be surprised to learn that there had ever been anyone anywhere who had no air in his house.

5. The meek and uneducated pay no attention to air, they take it for granted.

6. Exhaled air does not end up in the bowels of the earth, it is overwhelmingly recycled into the atmosphere.

ajttja
Gil-Gandel wrote:
learningthemoves wrote:

This one turns up in various places on the internet, with no solution. I'll be interested to see if we get one this time.

Oxygen or "air".

1.It's "the key to life and death" because you must breathe to live or you will die.

2. "If you do not find it in your house you will find it nowhere" because if you don't have air to breathe in your house, you won't live to go anywhere else.

3."It's before everyone's eyes; No one can live without it; everyone has used it..."

Again, we all must breathe.

4."The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets..."

The poor usually have less resources to shelter themselves from the elements including hot air in the summer and are more exposed to it.

Children play with it in the streets. Children who grow up poor must learn to use the air as a "prop" as they pretend. For example, the child who flaps their arms in the air and says they are flying are really just pretending to fly and are using the air around them as a prop to represent the sky.

5. "The meek and uneducated esteem it highly but the rich often throw it away"...

The meek and uneducated esteem cooled air during the summer and heated air during the winter highly for reasons of comfort and yet the rich often use it wastefully without the need to conserve it as much because they can afford to pay for the heated or cooled air whenever they like without having to worry about running out of resources like kerosene fuel for heated air or freon gas for cooled air, etc.

6. "When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth..."

When we breathe in oxygen, the human body "rejects" or exhales the rest of the air in the form of carbon dioxide which is absorbed by trees, plants and ultimately back into the earth and below its surface. When we burn fuels, the carbon dioxide gas goes back to lie dormant in the bowels of the earth where it collects for millions of years too.

"It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."

The Philosopher's Stone had to do with alchemy and was broken into 4 main elements:

1.Air

2.Fire

3.Earth

4.Water

By definition, The noble metals are metals that are resistant to corrosion and oxidation in moist air, unlike most base metals

Therefore, if the metals do not have moist *air* from which to resist corrosion and oxidation, they would be just like base metals and wouldn't be considered noble metals.

So for these reasons and justifications, I submit to you the answer, "Air".

Not bad. I respectfully submit however that:

2. In the entire history of mankind, I would be surprised to learn that there had ever been anyone anywhere who had no air in his house.

5. The meek and uneducated pay no attention to air, they take it for granted.

6. Exhaled air does not end up in the bowels of the earth, it is overwhelmingly recycled into the atmosphere.

the answer is imagination

waffllemaster

Imagination lies dormant in the bowls the of the earth huh?

ivandh
LoekBergman a écrit :

Kikyo_Sushi: the first line states that it has a chaotic internal processing. I would not think of that with a clock or watch in general, do you?

For a grandfather clock with a forced, damped pendulum, it would by definition be chaotic, and if you take a very liberal view to the second, it is technically governed by physical/mechanical laws. It doesn't at all meet the third though.

For it to be precise there must be the possibility of it not being precise, i.e. to make errors, whether in measurement, simulation, or physical movement. The second line is difficult to interpret, because technically everything is governed by natural laws that were not made by humans. The third, on the other hand, seems to eliminate all of the possibilities that spring to mind!

Gil-Gandel

What timepiece has the fewest moving parts? What timepiece has the most?

LoekBergman

Haha, beautiful a damped pendulum! However, a pendulum is not utmost precise by nature is it?

There is a solution.

LoekBergman
Assoluto wrote:

"The key to life and death is everywhere to be found, but if you do not find it in your own house, you will find it nowhere.

Yet, it is before everyone's eyes; no one can live without it; everyone has used it.

The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets.

The meek and uneducated esteem it highly, but the privileged and learned often throw it away. 

When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth. I

t is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."

Something like relief or faeces, excrement. Reminds me of from ashes to ashes, from dust to dust. Junk. The relation to noble metal or the preparation of the Philosopher's Stone is beyond imagination, however that last word can never be the solution. Imagination is certainly not the key to life and death. Excrements, metabolism and sexuality are. None of them however is possessed more by the poor then the rich.
Fingerly
LoekBergman wrote:

It is inner processing is chaotic, its results are utmost precise,

it is strictly governed by laws, which are not made humanwise,

it is a really cool working time independent device.

What is it?

A heart.

LoekBergman

That is a beautiful idea Fingerly! But how do you explain 'utmost precise'?

And is your heart really cool working? I sincerely hope not.

Fingerly

I was thinking of "cool" as a modern adjective conveying wonder, as in "I think pictures of nebulas are cool," or "Family Guy is a cool show."

Since this is apparently a temperature-related "cool", the solar system, or Milky Way, or universe should work.

dogsix

im awesome

LoekBergman

I used the word cool instead of cold to make it not that obvious indeed. I did not know that they have utmost precise results? :-)

Fingerly

Heartbeats fluctuate on multiple levels based on multiple variables.  However, they generally keep a steady rhythm.  More than this, though: in cases where the lack of a heartbeat defines death, the presence of a heartbeat will define life.  That's an important and precise dividing line for people who like to keep breathing.  Smile 

Knightly_News
Fingerly wrote:

Heartbeats fluctuate on multiple levels based on multiple variables.  However, they generally keep a steady rhythm.  More than this, though: in cases where the lack of a heartbeat defines death, the presence of a heartbeat will define life.  That's an important and precise dividing line for people who like to keep breathing.   

In any case, I think you should sue your dentist for malpractice.

(Name's Bond.  James Bond)

GSlowik

The grammar of the riddle throws me off.... but from how I read it I would assume the answer is that it says he traveled on his car, not in his car. Therefore he drove back and it took him significantly less time.

finns

he went back on a horse called sunday