Someone Just Beat Hikaru Nakamura’s Puzzle Rush Score

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For the longest time, Puzzle Rush’s all-time high score was 55, boasted by GM Hikaru Nakamura. Looks like it was eclipsed today by a GM with the screen name “spicycaterpillar,” who scored a whopping 58.

https://www.chess.com/leaderboard/rush?type=all_time
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looks like "spicycatetpillar" might be Jeffery Xiong.

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why is it not in the leaderboard then?

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Growlithe99 wrote:
For the longest time, Puzzle Rush’s all-time high score was 55, boasted by GM Hikaru Nakamura. Looks like it was eclipsed today by a GM with the screen name “spicycaterpillar,” who scored a whopping 58.

https://www.chess.com/leaderboard/rush?type=all_time

Spicy scored 56 a few weeks ago IIRC.

And he tied hikaru with a 55 even a few weeks before that.

Little late to the party, especially now that he's off the leader board.

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So now spicycaterpillar is erased form this list ! What did happen ?

 

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Idk...

You can probably still find it in Rush's actual leaderboard. Just go to Rush the way you normally would, then on the leaderboard, there is a drop-down box. Go there, then select "All". It should pop up.

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Wow NEVER MIND!!

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Odd situation

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Before this topic gets locked, the long and short of it is that Nakamura said in some discords that he was sure that spicy was cheating somehow, at least to get the 58 score, because he thought it was extremely suspicious that spicy's attempt finished with a strike remaining and the last solved problem completed with over ten seconds left. To be honest I wouldn't expect that we ever get to know much information about why chess.com ultimately decided to take spicy off the leaderboard, because this website tends not to divulge too much information about these sorts of things (as is their right). My guess is that the score is "under review" or otherwise chess.com is in contact with spicy trying to figure this out. It's a weird situation and I think we're all not going to know much about it unless someone involved talks about it off this website. 

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Thanks for sharing this, @dpnorman

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dpnorman wrote:

Before this topic gets locked, the long and short of it is that Nakamura said in some discords that he was sure that spicy was cheating somehow, at least to get the 58 score, because he thought it was extremely suspicious that spicy's attempt finished with a strike remaining and the last solved problem completed with over ten seconds left. To be honest I wouldn't expect that we ever get to know much information about why chess.com ultimately decided to take spicy off the leaderboard, because this website tends not to divulge too much information about these sorts of things (as is their right). My guess is that the score is "under review" or otherwise chess.com is in contact with spicy trying to figure this out. It's a weird situation and I think we're all not going to know much about it unless someone involved talks about it off this website. 

At least that would explain the GM wanting to keep the account anonymous i.e. he knew the endgame was to cheat.

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I might be mistaken but I think when puzzle rush first came out a someone  scored 60 or something but chess.come deleted it because they suspected cheating. And I think the way they tell if someone is cheating is to either let stock fish play through it or let someone play it with stock fish helping them and see how they compare to the suspicious score. I don't know this for sure but it makes sense to me  

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fgsjd wrote:

I might be mistaken but I think when puzzle rush first came out a someone  scored 60 or something but chess.come deleted it because they suspected cheating. And I think the way they tell if someone is cheating is to either let stock fish play through it or let someone play it with stock fish helping them and see how they compare to the suspicious score. I don't know this for sure but it makes sense to me  

Comparing a game vs stockfish is useful because when there are no tactics humans and engines play differently.

But using stockfish to check a person's performance in puzzles doesn't make sense. At least not to me.

They have a lot of human data on puzzle rush, at least if they bothered collecting it. It'd make sense to compare it against that.

One way players get stupidly high tactics ratings is they do it so much they start remembering the puzzles. So they're not really solving, just playing the solution from memory. Puzzle rush is the same, and spicy played a ridiculous amount of puzzle rush, so one thing to check would be how often he's seen the last 10 (or so) he solved. Stuff like that.

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I think the puzzles in puzzle rush are found by stock fish to start with taken from games played on chess.come that's why some answers don't really make sense to people in the more difficult puzzles stock fish analysis of the puzzle finds the answer very quickly. At least that's how it is on lichess where I do most of my puzzles. 

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SpicyCaterpillar just got a score of 60 again today.

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@casper_schoppen has 96 in Puzzle Rush....

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What's up with all these new highs??

1st - @Casper_Schoppen, hsc. 104!!

2nd - @jlucasvf, hsc. 80!

3rd - @HansCoolNeimann, hsc. 76

4th: The one we all know... (if you don't, go check the leaderboard BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!), with a high of 65.

5th: @jefferyx, highscore of 58

Then, we have @LyonBeast, at 57.

After that, there are not one, but two people tied with Nakamura.

ANYONE READING THIS NEEDS TO SEE THE LEADERBOARD FOR INFO; SCORES MAY HAVE CHANGED SINCE THIS POST.

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yes nakamura is not finally the best

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All legit.

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Yes I think that too