Sportsmanship and ethics, where to draw the line?

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Matajajas

Just played this game: 

Was it unethical of me to play the last blunder trap... ? -Or is it part of the game?

 

Cherub_Enjel

No. There are no ethics regarding legal moves made on the board.

Cherub_Enjel

The "rules of chess" are really the only ethics you need to follow.

The_Chin_Of_Quinn

Nothing wrong with it. Happens all the time actually. That's why moving fast (or being very low on time) is dangerous.

MickinMD

Traps are part of the game. In my last game I could have played two consecutive moves in either order, but one way included a trap where my opponent might drop a piece: I played the trap order.

The_Chin_Of_Quinn
MickinMD wrote:

Traps are part of the game. In my last game I could have played two consecutive moves in either order, but one way included a trap where my opponent might drop a piece: I played the trap order.

This is a position I made up, but this is the sort of small tricks i'll do like that in blitz games.



Matajajas

JoyRK_98 that's funny coming from at 1100 rated player. Guess most of your games are blunder free... happy.png 

Matajajas

OP, here: my point is not so much if traps are allowed. I agree traps are part of the game, but this is hardly a trap. 61. Qe8...

Cherub_Enjel

And your opponent didn't see the hanging queen.. So who's fault is it ;)

Pilchuck

First, there's nothing unethical about planning a trap. But seriously, that wasn't a trap, you blundered your queen and your opponent missed it. This is a trap:

 

Matajajas

I agree it was not a proper trap. But i did't blunder my Q -- it was a desperat move in a lost position. I was sure to loose, so I gambled that he might not see my "blunder" and he didn1t. Still: I felt a bit bad afterwards happy.png 

macer75
Matajajas wrote:

I agree it was not a proper trap. But i did't blunder my Q -- it was a desperat move in a lost position. I was sure to loose, so I gambled that he might not see my "blunder" and he didn1t. Still: I felt a bit bad afterwards  

Well... if it really makes you feel bad you can resign next time in a similar situation.

Pilchuck

It's part of the soul of chess to bluff and swindle your opponent about something that's in plain sight, right in front of their eyes. Better even than poker, in that respect, because in poker the truth is hidden.
I'm pretty sure Emanual Lasker said something like that in his Manual of Chess. It's a good book, he spins some interesting prose, in an archaic turn-of-the-20th-century way. Check it out.

chessarx

I'm blind. Where was the trap in the end? Inquiring minds want to know, lol, and I'm a bit bummed out that I can't "see" the trap. Is 68. ...Qe8 the trap?  If so, consider that dodging the bullet and put that feather in your cap, because that was the equivalent of giving your house keys to the thief, lol.  I can definitely relate to that.  We all make blunder moves like that on occasion, and a win is a win is a win.  I "see" no violation in ethics.