Square Off - Chess Set

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I've been enjoying my Kingdom set since 2019. I play at least once a week. I did buy directly from the factory after waiting for a Black Friday price (ie; late November). Shipping took several weeks but was not delayed. Customer service has been helpful but not always able to solve my issue. During my last game, I was playing black and the board did not register white's first move. I made the move for it, and then responded on the board, and the game continued normally from there. Sometimes it just gets goofy later in the game and you have to manually adjust the pieces. Overall, I enjoy the board, and it's encouraged me to play more. It's a great way to stay in touch with my chess buddy who lives in another hemisphere.

I don't expect it to last too long. Sooner or later it will probably malfunction or they'll stop keeping the software updated for smart phones. We'll see. 

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After having it for a week or so now, I think I made the right choice.  From some things I have read, the Square Off seemed a bit early in its life cycle for me.  The Centaur seemed more for somebody who already is at least somewhat a chess master.  The Millennium The King Performance seems just right for somebody starting out and all the way through a strong club player, which will be me from now until well into the future.

It is not fun to get soundly beaten all the time, nor to put the chess computer into a lower level mode only to have it make obvious blunders as I have read the Centaur seems to do at lower levels of play.

The Millennium seems to play well at the lower levels so it doesn't seem as if it is just throwing the game.

Personally, it is not a big deal to me whether I have to lightly press on the start and end of the squares of the move or simply slid pieces around.  I never understood why some make it a big deal.  An advantage to having to press on the squares to register a move is that I can use ANY chess I choose since the pieces don't have special chips or magnets to regoznie moves.

There are many features in the Millennium that are helpful for learning.  In my opinion, it is easier to use than the older dedicated chess computers I have used for taking back pieces, setting up positions, etc.  The lower comfort modes are perfect for a beginner and having the occasional win certainly helps with motivation.

I read here in these forums, the suggestion to play at the lowest level until I can routinly beat the computer, then go to the next level, and so on.  That seems like a perfect application of the Millennium The King Performance.

Who cares if it only plays up to a 2400-2500 level?  How many of us hobby players are at that level or will even get to that level?  To me, having the features the Millennium has is far more important.  Having a strong enougn play that it will take years for me to be able to beat it (if I ever get that far) is plenty good enough for me.

I am sure these other dedicated chess computers are very fine, but the Millennium The King Performance suits my needs perfectly.

 

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Purchased a Swap through SquareOff because of their newly guaranteed delivery by march — remember that? This morning woke up to an email delaying delivery until at least July…

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It will arrive eventually, Tierneyalvin. My order got postponed 3 times, and each time the promised day passed, and after a few days i had to email to find out that it was indeed not sent out and got a new delivery date, that was again not met

But all in all, they did sent it to me. Even after I emailed to cancel and requesting a refund. I directly sent it back, without arriving at my doorstep, out of principle

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First 100 Neos being shipped...Check out their latest update.

UPDATE #29Backers only

It’s finally happening. We are shipping

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March 24, 2022

 

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First 100 will be shipped of the Neo, then 500 next month, then 2000 the following month and 2000 from then on. 

They are still making changes to the Swap... meh.png  

Their last project, the Grand Kingdom set, was delayed an additional six months due to all sorts of issues. 

Some people are suggesting that SquareOff is putting out an unfinished product because their indiegogo is under review and they need to deliver something or be forced to return the money.  At this point, it might be true.

For those that haven't read this entire thread:

 PROTIP: Buy from a 3rd party, like Amazon or HoS when/if it becomes available.  

Avatar of adamhala007

Hi all, I would like to buy a Square Off Swap directly from their website, but reading the comments here and on other forums, I am a little bit uncertain about it. Is here anybody, to whom has been the Swap chessboard already delivered and is satisfied with it?

Thanks for answer.

Avatar of jjupiter6

Have you read the thread properly? The swap is delayed until July.

Avatar of binomine
adamhala007 wrote:

 Is here anybody, to whom has been the Swap chessboard already delivered and is satisfied with it?

Thanks for answer.

There is nobody with a SWAP board at this time. The Swap board is currently still in the prototype phase. 

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A Superbacker just posted this over in the comments section.  I didn't post his name, but you can check for yourself if that's important.  Doesn't help us Swap folks, but at least something (the first 100) is shipping...

I just received the FedEx tracking info for my NEO (USA backer). Should have some info to report next week, when it arrives

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For anyone interested, what it looks like with wooden pieces. I used the magnetic previously mentioned in this thread 

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And here's a happy report on the Neo from the Kickstarter comment section...

Okay, I too was annoyed at the delays, but since I was backer #2257 I knew it would be a while before I got mine. Imagine my delight when it arrived today -- and IT. IS. AWESOME. The A.I. beat me in three games so far and the seven-year-old so far. The four-year-old was the most amazed: "It's like Ghostbusters: Afterlife!" Really impressive product.

 

I wish there had been a bit more documentation to explain the best way of interacting with the board, but we figured it out. Basically, you want to make sure to ALWAYS lift and place a piece, never slide it more than one square at a time (otherwise the board doesn't realize it's moved more than one square.) You also need to REMOVE the opponent's piece BEFORE you move the attacker's piece, otherwise the sensor gets confused. I also experienced a bizarre glitch on my first game which didn't recognize that I had placed the computer in check, but it may have been a misunderstanding on how the piece was lifted and put back down. It definitely helps to keep the app open with the board showing so that you're clear that everything is where it should be if the board gets confused. But once I learned how to best interact with it I haven't had that problem yet.

 

Anyway, just wanted to say congrats to the development team. I do hope it's durable and lasts for years, because it's truly one of the coolest products I've ever bought from Kickstarter or Indiegogo. For those frustrated with the delays, I hear ya, but don't give up! It's really, really great.

 
 
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That window is empty, bro.

Avatar of JesterKwP

Anyone know if the Square Off Pro works with Hiarcs on Mac?  If not, any suggestions for databases that will work with it for Mac or iOS?

Avatar of Borregaard95

Just found this unboxing video on YouTube from 20 hours ago 😅 https://youtu.be/rmLJDmlTXMk

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chessmaster_diamond wrote:

That window is empty, bro.

 

Annoyingly its white text on a white background, you can drag over it to read

Avatar of DV_SS

Found some videos of NEO gameplay on YouTube. These seems very recent. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DmrZvdGlRY&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-p9Zm9oYbQ&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ywx5jUe8Wc

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There is video posted on kickstarter updated related to gameplay on SWAP :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEOOQc0-tLM

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I've been reading around and these guys rep is in the gutter over customer services or very much a lack there of and constantly delaying products. 

I'm about to pay my full amount after paying £29 deposit for a swap. Should I cancel? 

I know people have been waiting years for this board which is bad enough but to then not even receive a board and no way to get a refund as your card will only cover you for 90 days if your lucky.

Is it safe but you just have to wait or cancel immediately and get my money back? 

Thanks in advance. 

Alan