Stalemate needs to be abolished...

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TheGrobe

Paranoia.

nameno1had
TheGrobe wrote:

Paranoia.

I guess it would be fair to say if it didn't seem like you followed me around waiting for any of my human quailities to show to alienate me for them, then perhaps I wouldn't feel so inclined to not give you the benefit of the doubt.

Kens_Mom
blake78613 wrote:

If you feel that there is nothing wrong with the rate of draws in the last Canidate's matches (over 90%) is acceptable then you are in a minority.

Yes, the amount of draws in the last Candidates matches (as well as the WC) was a little disappointing, but it was not as though there was no winner.  The whole thing produced results, which was what mattered.  Everyone likes to see some blood, but there's no need to destory the integrety of the game to do so.

 

And I apologize that I misread your post.  But like I said, I was referring to games that are theoretical draws that are not recognized as draws by the official rules of chess.  Without the 50 move rule, players would indeed try to drag the game out to the "million+ move limit" like you say, even if the game is pretty much dead.  However, before this happens one player would lose due to exhausting all his time or being exhausted physically.  This way, people would win/lose games that are otherwise draws.  I'm sure most of the draws in the Candidates matches were like this too: the game arrived at a dead position and realized that they can either shuffle their pieces for 50 turns or agree to a draw beforehand.  I don't think many were stalemate draws though.

TheGrobe

Humour me and go back and retread the sequence of posts in their original context. I was simply expanding on waffllemaster's post about Monster. Lose the persecution complex.

AlCzervik

Good luck, Grobe!!

nameno1had
TheGrobe wrote:

Humour me and go back and retread the sequence of posts in their original context. I was simply expanding on waffllemaster's post about Monster. Lose the persecution complex.

I generally don't and won't pay attention to your posts unless they appear coincidentally or otherwise directed to me. For someone who likes to try to give me as much grief as you do, it seems rather hypocritical of you to tell me to not feel attacked. Generally, I never control how I feel, only how I react to it.

If you genuinely weren't referring to me, ok...if you are willing, accept this as a direct apology...if not, I am sure you are already aware of where I would tell you to stick it otherwise....good day

TheGrobe

That's a pretty backhanded apology.

nameno1had
TheGrobe wrote:

That's a pretty backhanded apology.

I learned from one of the best backhanded compliment givers I've ever known...then again I am not going to kiss your arse or do tricks for you either...

I couldn't help but notice you not only know what that is, but what it is called...seems like you have a familiarity that is contrived from experience...

Monster_with_no_Name

Keep this petty fighting out of my thread.
Start your own thread and bash each other there or Ill block you.

Just goes to show most people are here for a fist fight, not a logical discussion about the topic. No wonder none of you make any sense.

gattaca
Monster_with_no_Name wrote:

No wonder none of you make any sense.

Lol, reading the whole thread, it seems you are actually the one who has not much use the common sense.

nameno1had
Monster_with_no_Name wrote:

Keep this petty fighting out of my thread.
Start your own thread and bash each other there or Ill block you.

Just goes to show most people are here for a fist fight, not a logical discussion about the topic. No wonder none of you make any sense.

Threats and power trips...interesting

I'll take your advice, besides you are a far easier target, at least the Grobe has some intelligence behind his ideas

Sketchyfish

Why is this topic open for discussion?  Stop feeding the trolls.  All the debate in the world won't change how chess has, and will continue to be played.  End of story.

goldendog

You're overlooking the power of patzers.

nameno1had
Sketchyfish wrote:

Why is this topic open for discussion?  Stop feeding the trolls.  All the debate in the world won't change how chess has, and will continue to be played.  End of story.

We keep trying to tell him. Then he gets offended when others have have idiosyncracies that are parts of debates on the side. I am begining to think he is jealous for attention or something. Anytime someone has no interest in letting others settle their differences it makes me think they are actually interested in strife, even if they say they are against it. Then again, some people are contrary by nature. It is the real reason they aren't happy, the threads are just an outlet, the topics aren't their reason for unhappiness they complain about.

tadmax00

Stalemate is a horrible way to lose a win. That being said i think its a great rule. Once you have made that mistake you will learn to look to avoid it. Chess growth comes from your mistakes, not changing the rules.

Monster_with_no_Name
TheGrobe wrote:

Now how many of those draws in the last WC cycle involved stalemate?

 

Thought so.

Please refer to my chessbase (chessbase.com) [the worlds premeire and most highly respected glorious chess website] article there are examples there.

Have youuuuu authoured any world famous articles in any prominent chess magazineeeeeeeee?

I thouggghhhttttt sooooooo

AlCzervik
Monster_with_no_Name wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Now how many of those draws in the last WC cycle involved stalemate?

 

Thought so.

Please refer to my chessbase (chessbase.com) [the worlds premeire and most highly respected glorious chess website] article there are examples there.

Have youuuuu authoured any world famous articles in any prominent chess magazineeeeeeeee?

I thouggghhhttttt sooooooo

Tell us all more about how great chessbase is so you can get booted from here.

Good luck with your "articles".

AlCzervik

A disability is already evident.

Monster_with_no_Name
Estragon wrote:
Monster_with_no_Name wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Now how many of those draws in the last WC cycle involved stalemate?

 

Thought so.

Please refer to my chessbase (chessbase.com) [the worlds premeire and most highly respected glorious chess website] article there are examples there.

Have youuuuu authoured any world famous articles in any prominent chess magazineeeeeeeee?

I thouggghhhttttt sooooooo

Chessbase published it as a joke, like their April Fool's posts.  The whole world is laughing at you, sorry. 

It's probably not your fault - did yer Mum drink heavily while pregnant with you?  Maybe there's a disability income in it for you.

Grandpa youre getting a little personal... did I hit a nerve?
Its all ok, everything will be fine... just take the meds and go have a lie down the big bingo tournament will start in a few hours. You have new pink markers today to play with.

TheGrobe

Here's the problem:

I keep hearing this touted as a solution to the drawish nature of chess at the top levels without having seen one shred of evidence presented that stalemate is actually the cause. Frankly, I believe stalemate specifically contributes very little to these tendencies towards draws, especially at the GM level.

I'd like to see some arguments with a little more meat on the bone.