stalemate should not be a draw

Why should you be credited with a full point after you played a bad move (stalemate)?

Stalemate is a metaphor for a King (and subjects) trapped within His own fort to be starved out (mate) or surrender (resign).  It's not a zugzwang, it's a TRAPPED "starving" King.  Stalemate should be a loss for "He who hath been trapped."

sarcasm, i assume

Kc1 also gets a draw there.

But black can play Kb3, so then it would be white, not black, who gets stalemated.

Theron: I'll take it into account if the rule is changed some day! :D

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37. Stalemate should not be a draw

38.  I want to argue just to argue, so i will attack your grammar

Re Diakonia - Good! Now when we post new threads, we can save effort by just saying, "Topic #5!"

For the record, I'm not saying I agree that stalemate should not be a draw. I think stalemate as a draw is fine the way it is.

I added #38 just for you.

Lasker1900 wrote: and a bad one! You want the game to be more "logical," but the stalemate rule is better than logical, it can be magical!And without stalemate, a lot of endgame theory would simply vanish. It would be trivially easy to win many positions a pawn up, requiring almost no skill or care at all. Do you honestly believe that this would make chess a better or more interesting game?People have invented thousands of board games over the years with perfectly logical and consistent rules; They are all gathering dust in someones closet lol. you're being a bit irrational. changing the scoring system does not change one rule regarding how the game is played. it doesn't alter chess theory. it was proposed by a GM who is well respected for his contributions to the game. changing the scoring system might alter how you play the game. it might be necessary to avoid exchanging all your pieces to avoid getting stalemated but as a strategy for ending a game a stalemate remains a viable option.

But spelling isn't grammar!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Love your list, well done!

lol. you're being a bit irrational. changing the scoring system does not change one rule regarding how the game is played. it doesn't alter chess theory. it was proposed by a GM who is well respected for his contributions to the game. changing the scoring system might alter how you play the game. it might be necessary to avoid exchanging all your pieces to avoid getting stalemated but as a strategy for ending a game a stalemate remains a viable option.

Thank You Steve...feel free to add to the list.

The insult is the last bastion of defense

Diakonia: Good list! I've only been here a couple years and that's what 90% of the topic boil down to.

As to this topic. Sure, you could have a version of chess in which stalemate was not a draw.There's nothing sacred about the stalemate rule or any of the other rules.

Once upon a time, as I recall, pawns could only move one square at a time, then someone decided it would speed things up to allow pawns to move two squares on the first move. The idea caught on and here we are.

For my money the stalemate adds to the richness of the game, which players liked, and I presume that's why it became a general rule.

Maybe someday we will be tired of how booked the standard opening position is and we will move to some kind of Fischer Chess.

Here's a history of STALE-MATE.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Mate vs Stalemate-here is an analogy:  When you are trying to bag your opponents king i.e. Checkmate; make sure to close the bag tightly other wise, you will end up with " Stale "  mate. 

Darn, I am new to Chess and I unknowingly forced a stalemate. I felt I had more moves to corner the opponent but it just dragged it on and on until they had no more moves.