Stalemate sucks and it needs to be removed

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long_quach wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
long_quach wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:

In Western Chess,

The Knight can jump over a line of infantry.

That's not logical.

In Xiangqi, a Knight cannot jump over the infantry.

Now if the Knight is a modern Helicopter, then that's something else.

Even if it was an old knight technically the horse can trample or "jump" over unarmed infantry (or unguarded pieces /squares)

No cavalry has ever trampled its own troops to get in front of the battle line.

Not his own troops the opponents troops

1. Nf3

Horses are faster 🤷 they get to the front lines quicker besides it is just a game...

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long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
long_quach wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:

In Western Chess,

The Knight can jump over a line of infantry.

That's not logical.

In Xiangqi, a Knight cannot jump over the infantry.

Now if the Knight is a modern Helicopter, then that's something else.

Even if it was an old knight technically the horse can trample or "jump" over unarmed infantry (or unguarded pieces /squares)

No cavalry has ever trampled its own troops to get in front of the battle line.

Not his own troops the opponents troops

1. Nf3

That's actually not a bad idea.

Half of each.

It cannot jump over its own troops, but can jump over enemy's troops!

I was talking about when the knight captors it can move in front of any troop though like how a car can move faster and go in front of ahuman..

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shubham wrote:

become a good player, you wont say this again....

Talking about long quash right cause I'm having the same thought ?

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Stalemate should be removed. Resignation, too.

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silly

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Flotteenchante wrote:
Stalemate adds so much to the subtlety of the game . I understand your frustration , but as your understanding of the game grows you will appreciate this . I don’t mean this at all in a condescending way . Once you study many master games and the history of great chess games then you will find examples of incredible escapes through stalemate which can spring from nowhere occasionally . I was held to a draw in the British Rapidplay in Leeds many years ago . Three pawns up and I wondered why my opponent was playing on …. I soon found out … he sacrificed his rook and my full point turned to a dusty half point in an Instant . Stalemate will come to your rescue as much as it frustrates you . So don’t worry and learn to love the complexities of our shared game . All the best , Simon

Personally, I will never appreciate or respect people abusing a stupid rule to get a draw when they were dominated.

Can you name one other sport in the world that makes bizarre rules to benefit people in obvious losing positions?

The only people who like stalemate are seasoned players who abuse it for everything its worth and take advantage of less experienced players who don't abuse it or are manipulated. This is not skill as much as you guys like to believe it i, just rule abuse from people who are losing and should have zero hope..

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If your opponent managed to endlessly check your king while you were "winning", you weren't really winning. In fact if anything, you should lose 2/3 of a point for letting him force a stalemate or perpetual check LOL

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EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

If your opponent managed to endlessly check your king while you were "winning", you weren't really winning. In fact if anything, you should lose 2/3 of a point for letting him force a stalemate or perpetual check LOL

? I am obviously the person winning in these positions, what are you talking about?

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If your position was vulnerable enough to him being able to force a stalemate, then you weren't really "dominating" at all in the first place. That's like saying being up a queen and rook should forbid your opponent from winning by checkmating with a pawn, because he's "abusing" the use of pawns to cancel out your material advantage. If you were really winning you wouldn't have allowed the stalemate possibility. The other fallacy is assuming one side is winning and the other isn't in a stalemate situation. The side doing the stalemating could be winning:

Losing:
Or neither:
And this is the main problem with any "stalemate shouldn't be a draw" arguments.
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haveyouseencyan wrote:
Flotteenchante wrote:
Stalemate adds so much to the subtlety of the game . I understand your frustration , but as your understanding of the game grows you will appreciate this . I don’t mean this at all in a condescending way . Once you study many master games and the history of great chess games then you will find examples of incredible escapes through stalemate which can spring from nowhere occasionally . I was held to a draw in the British Rapidplay in Leeds many years ago . Three pawns up and I wondered why my opponent was playing on …. I soon found out … he sacrificed his rook and my full point turned to a dusty half point in an Instant . Stalemate will come to your rescue as much as it frustrates you . So don’t worry and learn to love the complexities of our shared game . All the best , Simon

Personally, I will never appreciate or respect people abusing a stupid rule to get a draw when they were dominated.

Can you name one other sport in the world that makes bizarre rules to benefit people in obvious losing positions?

The only people who like stalemate are seasoned players who abuse it for everything its worth and take advantage of less experienced players who don't abuse it or are manipulated. This is not skill as much as you guys like to believe it i, just rule abuse from people who are losing and should have zero hope..

In the last three games you stalemated your opponent, no one was abusing anything. Your opponents were not tricking or trapping you. You had plenty of time on the clock. You could have won in a myriad ways. But you didn't. It was your fault and your fault alone.

And now frustrated with your losses, you come here to blame them on the rules of the game instead of your own inability to play well. You are not the first, not the last. If you stick around long enough and get better at the game, you'll look back on this rant of yours very differently.

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AgileElephants wrote:
haveyouseencyan wrote:
Flotteenchante wrote:
Stalemate adds so much to the subtlety of the game . I understand your frustration , but as your understanding of the game grows you will appreciate this . I don’t mean this at all in a condescending way . Once you study many master games and the history of great chess games then you will find examples of incredible escapes through stalemate which can spring from nowhere occasionally . I was held to a draw in the British Rapidplay in Leeds many years ago . Three pawns up and I wondered why my opponent was playing on …. I soon found out … he sacrificed his rook and my full point turned to a dusty half point in an Instant . Stalemate will come to your rescue as much as it frustrates you . So don’t worry and learn to love the complexities of our shared game . All the best , Simon

Personally, I will never appreciate or respect people abusing a stupid rule to get a draw when they were dominated.

Can you name one other sport in the world that makes bizarre rules to benefit people in obvious losing positions?

The only people who like stalemate are seasoned players who abuse it for everything its worth and take advantage of less experienced players who don't abuse it or are manipulated. This is not skill as much as you guys like to believe it i, just rule abuse from people who are losing and should have zero hope..

In the last three games you stalemated your opponent, no one was abusing anything. Your opponents were not tricking or trapping you. You had plenty of time on the clock. You could have won in a myriad ways. But you didn't. It was your fault and your fault alone.

And now frustrated with your losses, you come here to blame them on the rules of the game instead of your own inability to play well. You are not the first, not the last. If you stick around long enough and get better at the game, you'll look back on this rant of yours very differently.

yes you are right.

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THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN STALE MATE IS REMOVED FROM CHESS.COM I HATE STALEMATE BEING REMOVED FROM CHESS.COM I COULDNT EVEN MOVE ANYWHERE BUT CAUSE OF CHESS.COM REMOVAL OF STALEMATE I FLIPING LOST BY TIME PLS ADD IT BACK and im black HAPPENED ON C7 LAST MOVE OFC
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you have a point, OP.

the problem with abolishing it is, what to do when your opponent cannot make a move.

you will have to get the checkmate rule amended with it.

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Perhaps it's "not paying attention" that ought to be abolished, instead of changing stalemate.

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No stalemate? Haiyaa... Leg down from chair... Of course, leg down from chair.

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+1. Ive stalemated a few times and gotten a few nice escapes due to stalmate traps, but these are very very rare, but cool when they pop up

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Stalemate is a good rule, especially if want to win in a losing position. If you lost the game, because you moved your piece in a positon where the King and the other pieces cannot move, then you should have known better.

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Buenas noches estimados amigos de Chess.com:

Desde hace unas semanas que viene ocurriendo una falla del sistema que me hace perder las partidas injustamente. Llega un momento en que hago mi jugada y el adversario no hace la suya, es decir no responde, pasan los segundo y minutos y de un momento a otro sale el aviso que el contrincante ha ganado y aparece una jugada que ha realizado, pero que yo no he podido ver y por falta del movimiento de mi parte, pasó el tiempo y he perdido, pero yo sí hice mi movimiento o mi jugada correspondiente. En otras ocasiones el adversario no responde y corre su tiempo hasta que se le agota, llegando al momento segundo y ahí se queda. Pero después sale el anuncio que ha ganado ¿A qué se debe esto? ¿Cómo poder solucionar?
Muchas gracias

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Si pero no (Yes but no)