StockfishNNUE! Probably the future of Stockfish!

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DrStrawlanaevahi
drmrboss wrote:
DrStrawlanaevahi wrote:

Why don't they have SF NNUE in the brackets at https://tcec-chess.com/live.html ?

 

Stockfish and Alliestein is coming up, should be interesting to see these games, but after that it's just LCZero and the winner of the current match between Fire and Xiphos. I don't see SF NNUE listed anywhere.

Stockfish NNUE is technically Stockfish fork or clone.

 

Stockfish team must choose Stockfish or SFNNUE . (they cant submit both) 

 

(In fact, there are more than a dozen Stockfish forks , eg sugar,crystal, Corfish etc)

 

So they are hiding their development, not bringing out the big guns?

drmrboss
DrStrawlanaevahi wrote:
drmrboss wrote:
DrStrawlanaevahi wrote:

Why don't they have SF NNUE in the brackets at https://tcec-chess.com/live.html ?

 

Stockfish and Alliestein is coming up, should be interesting to see these games, but after that it's just LCZero and the winner of the current match between Fire and Xiphos. I don't see SF NNUE listed anywhere.

Stockfish NNUE is technically Stockfish fork or clone.

 

Stockfish team must choose Stockfish or SFNNUE . (they cant submit both) 

 

(In fact, there are more than a dozen Stockfish forks , eg sugar,crystal, Corfish etc)

 

So they are hiding their development, not bringing out the big guns?

 

StockfishNNUE has not been tested in Stockfish  testing framework (NNUE is still in devlopmental stage). SFNNUE require passing ultra fast tests and regression tests. (normally tested between 10,000 to 40,000 games). 

 

Most developers will not release untested versions for the competition. TCEC is a prestigious engine competition, cccc is like amateur competition, and they are testing unofficial versions. 

drmrboss
drmrboss wrote:
MarcoDiazz wrote:

Hmmm. Leela is beating StockfishNNUE now. But StockfishNNUE is supposed to be stronger than Stockfish, which beat Leela quite recently. Something seems off.

Probably the admin of cccc, the real greco, messed up the setting of SFNNUE .

I believe they get the right set up for SFNNUE in CCCC,

Current standing at the time of this post!

P.S, the best SFNNUE is believed to be +50 elo stronger than Stockfish in blitz TC in consumer hardware. It may be +20 or +30 elo in this ccc mega hardware. 

 

barretoff

Lc0 is 113,5/222

Stockfish NNUE is 111/222

KovenFan
drmrboss wrote:
drmrboss wrote:
MarcoDiazz wrote:

Hmmm. Leela is beating StockfishNNUE now. But StockfishNNUE is supposed to be stronger than Stockfish, which beat Leela quite recently. Something seems off.

Probably the admin of cccc, the real greco, messed up the setting of SFNNUE .

I believe they get the right set up for SFNNUE in CCCC,

Current standing at the time of this post!

P.S, the best SFNNUE is believed to be +50 elo stronger than Stockfish in blitz TC in consumer hardware. It may be +20 or +30 elo in this ccc mega hardware. 

 

 

Lc0 leading by about 5 points now.

drmrboss

blueemu

If Stockfish NNUE is a neural Net, it will take a while to train it.

drmrboss
blueemu wrote:

If Stockfish NNUE is a neural Net, it will take a while to train it.

Depends on size of Network. SFNNUE is a tiny neural net, very quick to train within a few weeks. However they are doing a bigger net now..

 

Current SF nnue size - 30 MB

Alpha Zero size -35 MB

Leela -150 MB

Future Leela training in next year- Approx 350 MB

Prometheus_Fuschs
drmrboss escribió:

 

Me when hearing SF NNUE beats Lc0:

vunglamebay

Can anyone help me install Stockfish NNUE?

My CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz

RAM: 4GB

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

I have download stockfish nnue from https://github.com/nodchip/Stockfish/releases/tag/stockfish-nnue-2020-07-19

but I don't know how to run it and connect to Arena GUI.

Thank you.

drmrboss
vunglamebay wrote:

Can anyone help me install Stockfish NNUE?

My CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz

RAM: 4GB

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

I have download stockfish nnue from https://github.com/nodchip/Stockfish/releases/tag/stockfish-nnue-2020-07-19

but I don't know how to run it and connect to Arena GUI.

Thank you.

Check this thread,

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-to-install-stockfish-nnue

vunglamebay

Thanks