Stop playing before obvious check mate = violation of fair play policy?

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JockeQ

Is it considered as a violation to the fair play policy if oponents stops playing with one move from an obvious check mate? Happens once in a while and I find it rather annoying,  especially if there is like ten minutes left on the clock. But is this "stalling" and something I should report? Not really clear to me when I read the policy.

justbefair
JockeQ wrote:

Is it considered as a violation to the fair play policy if oponents stops playing with one move from an obvious check mate? Happens once in a while and I find it rather annoying,  especially if there is like ten minutes left on the clock. But is this "stalling" and something I should report? Not really clear to me when I read the policy.

Yes, stalling like that is against the sportsmanship rules and can get your account restricted.

JockeQ
CooloutAC skrev:

I know on lichess you get an automatic warning and can even get a ban.   Even for aborting matches as well.   Don't think it happens here though.  

Before I got a paid membership I aborted quite often. Because after the game was finished, when playing on my phone there was a one second delay for the commercial banner to show up. Which moved the "start new game" button" to where the  "game report" button used to be. So I repeatedly by accident pressed "new game" when I was aiming at the game report button.

justbefair
CooloutAC wrote:
justbefair wrote:
JockeQ wrote:

Is it considered as a violation to the fair play policy if oponents stops playing with one move from an obvious check mate? Happens once in a while and I find it rather annoying,  especially if there is like ten minutes left on the clock. But is this "stalling" and something I should report? Not really clear to me when I read the policy.

Yes, stalling like that is against the sportsmanship rules and can get your account restricted.

 

Whats great about lichess though is the system automatically detects it so you don't even have to report it.  and in fact when they do detect from your opponent,  they will let you know they sent them a warning or ban.   

Disconnecting or stalling is automatically detected here too. 

Martin_Stahl
CooloutAC wrote:
justbefair wrote:
JockeQ wrote:

Is it considered as a violation to the fair play policy if oponents stops playing with one move from an obvious check mate? Happens once in a while and I find it rather annoying,  especially if there is like ten minutes left on the clock. But is this "stalling" and something I should report? Not really clear to me when I read the policy.

Yes, stalling like that is against the sportsmanship rules and can get your account restricted.

 

Whats great about lichess though is the system automatically detects it so you don't even have to report it.  and in fact when they do detect from your opponent,  they will let you know they sent them a warning or ban.   

 

The system here is automatic as well.

Nimzo-IndianaJones
@CooloutAC I’ve seen your other forums and if like l*chess so much why not just hang out there instead? Chess.com has one of the greatest fair play systems which has effectively caught tons of people who have stalled, cheated, sandbagged etc.
Orang_Indonesia_1

JockeQ

I think you could have a maximum time limit per move of let's say something like 30% of the starting time.. Which would be for example 3 min for a 10 min rapid game. Then at least you don't have to wait for 9 minutes when someone blunder a queen early in the game and stops playing.

Ziryab

You have comments from folks who cannot see checkmate in one. How would a bot determine “obvious”?

ChessNoob960
JockeQ wrote:

I think you could have a maximum time limit per move of let's say something like 30% of the starting time.. Which would be for example 3 min for a 10 min rapid game. Then at least you don't have to wait for 9 minutes when someone blunder a queen early in the game and stops playing.

Yeah that's not at all the approach, you have to manually report stallers or else you get banned for thinking, you should kind of be able to use your own time

ninjaswat
ChessNoob960 wrote:
JockeQ wrote:

I think you could have a maximum time limit per move of let's say something like 30% of the starting time.. Which would be for example 3 min for a 10 min rapid game. Then at least you don't have to wait for 9 minutes when someone blunder a queen early in the game and stops playing.

Yeah that's not at all the approach, you have to manually report stallers or else you get banned for thinking, you should kind of be able to use your own time

+1

I've had to think for over 3 minutes on one move in a 10|0 game, so have my opponents.

canadian_rt
Ok I have a question, what if you do this in an Arena against the Arena match clock (you’re losing but you have more time than the arena clock so your game will get aborted). Would you still break stalling rules?
Ziryab
canadian_rt wrote:
Ok I have a question, what if you do this in an Arena against the Arena match clock (you’re losing but you have more time than the arena clock so your game will get aborted). Would you still break stalling rules?

 

That’s a loophole that this site should address. On Lichess, Arena games always finish. If the Arena time expires, the points do not count toward Arena. But the games do not abort.

Until they fix it, it is a viable strategy to play somewhat riskier chess in the last few minutes of Arena, keeping a stall abort option in reserve.