Susan Polgars Method to Success.... Legit?

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Hello everyone, 

 

I have an opportunity to purchase The Susan Polgar Method, a series of 10 dvd set that states that it covers all aspects of chess to get me to a substantial skill level.  The series is "normally" 150$ but is being offered 50% off for another 7 days.  I am hesitant as I get that no one chess resource can get you chess mastery on it's own but I do understand that it might help me in gettting better.  Right now I am right around 1250 for skill and would like to be much better.  For those of you that have any experience with Susan Polgars teachings, etc., ... simply put.... Do you think 75$ is worth her 10 section teaching?  I have also included the site, below that is selling it for those that  haven't seen it.  

Do you think it's worth it?  Has anyone here seen this 10 section set and can attest to it's legitimacy. 

 

Thanks

TheKnightOne

Avatar of Merovwig

I watched the London system videos while it was on free trial, the Colle-Zukertort videos and the French opening videos (a while ago).

These opening lessons focused on main lines but it was clear and good for beginner/intermediate players. About the price, it depends on what you are ready to pay. I have 5 chess books at arm length for an approximative total value of 120$ and I have far more chess books than that. So the price of the video does not make me blink when someone is ready to learn seriously.

It seems pretty complete:

- opening for White

- opening for Black

- tactical training

- positional play

- attacking play

- defensive play

- endgame

 

So why not?

Avatar of eaguiraud

Depends, would you be willing to read a couple of chess books thoroughly? or are you a visual learner? You can get a couple of chess books for that price.

Avatar of TheKnightOne

In the past, I've been much more of a visual learner... and would admit it is hard for me to trudge my way through a complete book...  for the most part but if it's a great book .... 

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Teichmann70 a écrit :
These videos are a waste of money! I watched them but they are not any better than youtube chess clips

Maybe you could tell us why there are so bad according to you.

Avatar of Shuloon

There really are endless instructional YouTube chess videos for free. I would start with those first before buying any DVDs for no reason.

Avatar of Merovwig

The reason would be getting a complete repertoire for Black and White and tactical/positional/defensive lessons at the same time, though yes it's probably better for beginners to watch free video first.

Avatar of DalePickles

Training materials priced at $150 or $75 may help a player gain a few dozen or even a few hundred points, but they will not elevate a 1250 player to 2800, or 2400, or 2000, or even 1600.

There is no substitute for playing thousands and thousands of games, in my humble opinion.

Avatar of TheKnightOne

Thank you to both of you for your thoughts.... yes, I do find that there are loads of free clips online.  But I would admit that finding specific clips can be a bit laboring as sometimes I'm not sure what I should be looking for specifically.  And that is a wall I have been running into in the past.   What might you think of this compared to the Chess.com vids?  

Avatar of eaguiraud

well, I have never had a membership so I do not know about the chess.com videos. But I can tell you there are tons of free material in youtube.

Avatar of VLaurenT

What you get from a Professional coach is structure and Quality content, which helps Learning and saves time. Chess.com offers à mix quality-wise and no structure. On YouTube, not much structure and Quality varies according to channels

Avatar of RimPie

You have diamond membership ,better watch chess.com videos.

 

Avatar of eaguiraud
Teichmann70 wrote:
Chess videos are only for entertainment. It is like trying to become a good football player by watching a lot of league premier football matches.

 

So... are you saying that reading football books will make you a good football player?

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Hey guys,

My name is Frederick Lansky I am the co-founder of iChess.net along with FIDE master William Stewart. I don't usually post on chess.com. However, Susan sent me this thread over and I'd like to respond to everyone's questions.

We've worked extensively with Susan on many projects but on this particular course we put tremendous amount of effort making sure the content, the details, and the audio video quality, and of course the actual material covered are all top notch.

While most of Susan's previous work was aimed more for really early beginners, this content was made with Club players in mind, specifically people rated around 1200-1700 who want to hear all the tips and tricks she uses to train her own students.

Its true there is a lot of good content on youtube, as a matter of fact we've released hundreds of videos ourselves, about 80% of our content is from GM or high rated IMs. 

However, to compare a lecture from Chessnetwork kingscrusher etc or similar from a recent tournament game to a complete club players course that covers all aspects of the game from one of the most sought after chess coaches in the world is completely apples and oranges. They're both great in there own way but they aren't the same thing.

Books are also great, but some people are visual learners and prefer videos or a combination of the two.

When we release a premium course we spend lots of time, effort and money making sure the content is very well organized, well presented, the highest audio/video quality and getting presenters that don't usually post on youtube for free. This particular course also includes tons of in person footage, PGN files of every game covered, chapter summaries, relevant puzzles for each chapter and more.

Susan Polgar is a FIDE Senior trainer with almost a decade of expereince coaching the US collegiate team and having they win every year.

Anyways, another thing to know is we offer a no questions money back guarantee on all items, even downloads so if you don't feel you got $75 in value from this course, you can get your money back but keep the course. Thats how confident we are that all club players will feel they got their moneys worth. Trust me when I say we take our premium courses very seriously.

If you missed the sale, there are other places to get it at 50%+ in the next few weeks (ICC will launch a sale soon, Also checkout Mato's review)

If you guys have any feedback for our "Master Method" courses we are releasing we'd love to hear from you.

Also if you guys don't want to spend the money check-in to our youtube channel we will be putting about 15% of the content out on youtube for free in the coming months so you guys can preview it. 

Also our e-mail list is a great way to find out about major promotions we do, we regularly give away premium items every week as well as constant 50-60% off sales off major bundles (empirechess, chess24, gingergm, foxy, icc etc)

Thanks again,

Freddy

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Teichmann70 wrote:
These videos are a waste of money! I watched them but they are not any better than youtube chess clips

Just a note, this guy goes around posting this on every topic that is asking about a book, video, or other material: "I tried it and it was a waste of money! Terrible!" same thing every time. Highly doubt this person has viewed this material.

For example, post #12 in this topic where he says an acclaimed Dvoretsky book is rubbish and a waste of money:
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/i-m-gonna-crazy-with-dvoretsky-s-endgame-manual