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Hi everyone,

I have been wondering what kind of tactic rating is needed to be a beginner, intermediate and advanced player so I have some sort of benchmark to set myself against.

Thanks

Avatar of baddogno

Well, there is a chart.  I'd paste it, but graphs don't paste:

http://www.chess.com/tactics/players

Sure, I'll be foolish enough to throw some numbers out.  Below 1200 is beginner, up to 1800 is intermediate, and beyond is advanced. And yes those numbers are totally made up. Laughing

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See how I snugged myself in there Cool

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With the current rating system the rating is meaningless.

The reason is that you lose points for getting it right but taking more than the average time. While this would sound fair enough in theory (adding time pressure to the challenge) the reality is that there aren't enough puzzles. They repeat themselves very often so a player who trains a lot simply ends up memorizing them and playing the right move in 2 sec. This brings the average time down and penalizes players who see the puzzle for the first time.

When I was training a lot I was around 2100, but in reality I should be more like 1900 on a good day.

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plutonia wrote:

With the current rating system the rating is meaningless.

The reason is that you lose points for getting it right but taking more than the average time. While this would sound fair enough in theory (adding time pressure to the challenge) the reality is that there aren't enough puzzles. They repeat themselves very often so a player who trains a lot simply ends up memorizing them and playing the right move in 2 sec. This brings the average time down and penalizes players who see the puzzle for the first time.

When I was training a lot I was around 2100, but in reality I should be more like 1900 on a good day.

Really? I saw somewhere that there are over 50.000 puzzles.

Not 100%, but pretty sure I saw that number somewhere. Must have been in the  Chess.com - Tactics Trainer Approvers group. I'm too lazy to look it up now.

I've done a couple of thousand and only seen the same one a couple of times.

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I'm sure the number of puzzles varies by difficulty. Around the 1900 range at least, there aren't that many.

 

Out of curiosity, what does a 3000 puzzle look like? Or even a 2500?

Do you have to calculate super long variations?

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plutonia wrote:

I'm sure the number of puzzles varies by difficulty. Around the 1900 range at least, there aren't that many.

 

Out of curiosity, what does a 3000 puzzle look like? Or even a 2500?

Do you have to calculate super long variations?

They are really, really tough as you can guess. Most high rated players only have about 50/60 % succes rate. The solution is generally very hidden.

Most puzzles I fail because I take too much time while having the correct solution.

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But how many moves do you usually have to calculate?

My question comes from the fact that I'm wondering how many moves in advance I should be able to see if I want to be good at tactics.

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plutonia wrote:

But how many moves do you usually have to calculate?

My question comes from the fact that I'm wondering how many moves in advance I should be able to see if I want to be good at tactics.

Edit: I have no idea. If I had to guess, I would say about 8 - 12 ply on average

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nobodyreally wrote:
plutonia wrote:

But how many moves do you usually have to calculate?

My question comes from the fact that I'm wondering how many moves in advance I should be able to see if I want to be good at tactics.

Edit: I have no idea. If I had to guess, I would say about 8 - 12 ply on average

Thank you.

That's a good news actually, I thought worse!

Avatar of DiogenesDue

Tactics trainer has always been suspect here.  Use chesstempo.com.

Avatar of amilton542

This will pickle your head about chess.com's TT. I saw someone today who had passed 17, failed 8 with a 68% pass rate but with a total time of 28 hours !?

How do you spend 28 hours on 25 TT problems with a 68% pass rate!? That works out at just over an hour per puzzle with a loss of points for taking so long!

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Maybe TT was being used in a classroom setting.
Avatar of nobodyreally

Just got this question in the chess.com quiz:

Endless Chess Quiz

As of the end of 2010, how many people on chess.com have done all the 50,000 tactics trainer problems?

Answer 2 !!

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