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sarterus

Summary of advice:

  • Turn off the timer, the timer gives you a huge hint.  In a real game your opponent will not tell you how difficult a tactical win is.
  • Limit you time to 3-5 mins per problem: if you can not find the solution do not sweat it.  Move on to the solution. The goal is to learn the patterns and improve calculation over all not to get the right answer every time.  The patterns will sink in subconsciously over time.  To focus on calculating tougher positions get a book like Secrets of Chess Tactics by Mark Dvoretsky and focus on calculation skills.
  • Take a min after problems you miss to see why you missed it click the show solution and if need View Analysis & Source link and see why you missed it.

Summary of improvements needed:

  • Give me stats! I did 2000 problems tell me which ones I am worse at.  Do I miss x-rays, knight forks, or Queen sacs.  I could learn so much from looking at that history.
  • Enable crowd sourcing to add tags to problems like Mate in 1 or Queen Sac so we can sort by type.
  • Let me choose a theme and do problems from that theme to get better at that theme
VLMJ

Excellent suggestions.  Any one of them would be helpful -- all would be  tremendously  helpful.  Thank you, Sarterus.

shoopi

Great suggestions.

urk
6 years later this video still exists and Sarterus has racked up a huge tactics rating.

But there's a big disparity with his other numbers.

My thought is that tactics training is easy and satisfyingly direct but it doesn't translate that well into actual chess strength.
Cherub_Enjel

 Well, it's not just that - it's the fact that when you get repetitions, you get free points.

I've done only 260 tactics total, and I've gotten a couple of duplicates, that I answered quickly and got a few points for free from.

This guy's done like 10000+, so I'm pretty sure he's gotten hundreds and hundreds of duplicates at least, if not thousands. 

Compared to his other ratings, his tactics rating is about correct, given how many attempts he's made.

urk
If I spent hours and hours and hours on it I'm sure I would go over 2200 but I don't think it would really help me.


I think I'd get a lot more out of spending hours and hours playing over the instructive games of Anatoly Karpov if I was actually interested in improving.
Cherub_Enjel

You're right! At the higher levels, tactics trainer gets a lot of diminishing returns. 

But if you're a beginner, you'd be better off repeating tactics over and over rather than looking at GM games.

universityofpawns

when I began my rating went up 100 points immediately after I took a one hour endgame video course (Chessmaster I think it was), and that was the fastest bump I ever got by far

urk
My position is that the Tactics Trainer is not much good for anybody, including beginners.

Beginners should study CHECKMATING patterns until they have them down cold, and play over classic games.

I hate it when people pass up checkmates.

THIS IS THE OBJECT OF THE GAME, PEOPLE.
urk
Magnus passing up mate in 3...what a PATZER!

Inexcusable!
ed1975

Don't tactics occur in games more often than checkmates?

urk
Ed1975, don't tactics occur in the games of Morphy and Anderssen and Blackburne, etc, etc?

And you can see how they arose.

The idea behind TT presumably is that you get the nifty stuff in concentrated format, thus saving you time and effort.

Think about it!
urk
I'm not going to patronize novices by saying they're incapable of getting anything out of the classic games.

Anybody can learn chess notation and enjoy instructive games that were played 200 years ago. That's a big part of the beauty of chess.
urk
PATRONIZE
"Treat with an apparent kindness that betrays a feeling of superiority"

That's not accurate?

I should have said I won't insult them?

I defer to your expertise as a native English speaker. I'm only an American.
neelshah4

Where is the tactics trainer? I've been trying to find it everywhere. 

 

albacored
neelshah4 wrote:

Where is the tactics trainer? I've been trying to find it everywhere. 

 

Just means the puzzles https://www.chess.com/puzzles/

neelshah4

Ohh okay thanks 

Santoy

I do 26 puzzles every day (allowed by Gold membership) and allow around 1 hour. 

I like seeing the timer to inform how much time I have spent but I had never registered that the small clock shows the expected solve time; I thought that it was simply a timer running animated icon. Now, I can't unsee it angry.png

It would be great if it was possible to see the elapsed time but not the 'difficulty' indicator.