Tactics Trainer rating points. Solve problem = +5-6 points. Fail to solve = -11 points.

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chessshovel
Can anyone explain the rationale behind this? Why is solving a tactics problem less, sometimes less than half of the penalty for failing to solve the same problem? You solve a problem and gain 5-6 points, or whatever. Fail to solve and you lose 10, 11 points. Thoughts?
Brithel
Pushing u to make at least 2 correct for one wrong,I find this a very clever idea
chess_stress_chess

In a chess game, if you make one bad decision for every two good decisions, you shouldn't expect great results. The tactics trainer operates along these lines.

sambuca_20
It has to do with the rating of the problem. If you solve a tactic higher than your rating, you will gain more points; in the same way, if you solve one lower than your rating, you will gain fewer points. It’s vice-versa with the problems you fail. Just to make it clear, I am not certain that this is how it works; it is just a theory I have deduced from my many hours on the tactics trainer.
AntonioEsfandiari

you aren't supposed to care about your tactics rating really anyway, it will prevent you from learning and improving.  Look at your rating every 1000+ puzzles, it should go up.  (assuming you take your time and analyze them afterwards)

JayeshSinhaChess

I think it depends on how fast you solve it too. If you solve a tactic after a really long think then you may even get one point only. Also I have had tactics where I got 10 ponts or more.

 

Also the negative on a puzzle fail depends on what the puzzle rating is and what you rating is. If its a puzzle you really should have solved based on elo, but failed you get more points docked.

 

Also if you rushed into a tacic and failed for the one obvious trap that also costs you points.

AntonioEsfandiari

 and a lot of puzzles (especially older ones) are underrated because they are familiar to everyone.

chessshovel

Thanks for the input everyone.  Very informative.

LTwo

Yes you do lose more points because of the time factor. The more time you take, the less points you gain but if you do it incorrect you will still lose the same amount of points. 

lfPatriotGames

I think I see the problem. Gaining 5 or 6 points does seem like too many. Losing 10 or 11 seems about right though. I rarely gain more than 5 points for getting a problem right. It's usually 1 or 2. 

Maybe they could fix it by a compromise, of say gaining 3 or 4 points for getting it right. That way, just like in a real game of chess, the gain for doing something right is very small, but the penalty for doing it wrong is very high.

LTwo

Ouch that would be pretty tough.

drmrboss

Full points is given if you can finish within target times.

With my personal experiences, I have 2300+tactic rating and solving 2600+ within target time will give me 12+ scores. If I finish the same puzzle at 70% time ( longer than target time), I get 6+ scores.If I finish the puzzle (2000-2600)correctly but take too long in thinking then, I get 1-2 scores only.

If I did wrong to 2000+ puzzles  I lose 12-14 points. If I did wrong to 2600+ puzzles, then I lose about 6 points.

Fair rating.