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Team Carlsen or Team Niemann

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CowboyByz
I can trust Carlsen, but I’m loving the anal beads memes.
Elroch

You can download the chess.com report as a pdf from here:

https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/hans-niemann-report

zachertz

Carlsen by far now

Debistro

The OP should do a poll.

cristianoronaldosuii7

This is not a good thing to do by Magnus. It teaches young people bad things. And, actually, Magnus was not even right. Hans did not cheat at all.

jxu

The chess.com report found Niemann's rating rise to be unusual but nothing weird about his OTB games. So we all know he cheated online but I'm still leaning that he's legit OTB.

Elroch

Not a reliable conclusion. It's more like the case for some of the charges is unproven.

cristianoronaldosuii7
jxu wrote:

The chess.com report found Niemann's rating rise to be unusual but nothing weird about his OTB games. So we all know he cheated online but I'm still leaning that he's legit OTB.

Exactly. There is no proof that Hans could have any way to somehow cheat. Even though we all know that he cheated online, he cannot cheat on the board without getting triggered.

1g1yy
jxu wrote:

The chess.com report found Niemann's rating rise to be unusual but nothing weird about his OTB games. So we all know he cheated online but I'm still leaning that he's legit OTB.

It said no such thing.  It said there was lots to be concerned about, but that they are not the arbiter of otb chess.  They said enough to make it clear they want no part of policing otb chess and that they don't want to make claims about what is happening there.  But, 'our online tools suggest someone might want to look into this...'  Paraphrased...

JyJade

These forums spread toxicity… don’t respond to this forum anymore

lfPatriotGames
JyJade wrote:

These forums spread toxicity… don’t respond to this forum anymore

It's just interesting conversation. And good light hearted fun with some of the videos. You don't have to be on either team to appreciate that. 

CraigIreland

#143: No one had responded to this thread for 4 days then you responded to it, telling people to not respond to it.