The curious case of 1200: The Expert's rating

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THECHESSMAN_78
Terminator-T800 wrote:

I'm 1400 & feel that I am near half way to grandmaster.  Maybe I'm wrong though , but that's what I feel when I watch the swollen heads play. They only seem twice as good as myself I recon. 

So what you got to say about that then trolls

you are not wrong half way to the elo of fabi 

nklristic
Terminator-T800 wrote:

I'm 1400 & feel that I am near half way to grandmaster.  Maybe I'm wrong though , but that's what I feel when I watch the swollen heads play. They only seem twice as good as myself I recon. 

So what you got to say about that then trolls

You can get from a complete beginner to 1500 in less than a year. But going from 1500 to 2500 could take decades if ever. 

THECHESSMAN_78
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
nklristic wrote:
Terminator-T800 wrote:

I'm 1400 & feel that I am near half way to grandmaster.  Maybe I'm wrong though , but that's what I feel when I watch the swollen heads play. They only seem twice as good as myself I recon. 

So what you got to say about that then trolls

You can get from a complete beginner to 1500 in less than a year. But going from 1500 to 2500 could take decades if ever. 

*Me who has gotten to 1800 in less than a year*

I think he's referring to adults I would guess it's much easier being a child 

nklristic
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
nklristic wrote:
Terminator-T800 wrote:

I'm 1400 & feel that I am near half way to grandmaster.  Maybe I'm wrong though , but that's what I feel when I watch the swollen heads play. They only seem twice as good as myself I recon. 

So what you got to say about that then trolls

You can get from a complete beginner to 1500 in less than a year. But going from 1500 to 2500 could take decades if ever. 

*Me who has gotten to 1800 in less than a year*

Sure there are those who can do it a lot faster, and those that can do it slower. Likewise, we have 12-13 year old gms, but I just wanted to emphasize the difference in effort required to get to 1500 and from 1500 to GM. The better you get, more difficult and slower it takes to gain FIDE points. 

Terminator-T800
nklristic wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
nklristic wrote:
Terminator-T800 wrote:

I'm 1400 & feel that I am near half way to grandmaster.  Maybe I'm wrong though , but that's what I feel when I watch the swollen heads play. They only seem twice as good as myself I recon. 

So what you got to say about that then trolls

You can get from a complete beginner to 1500 in less than a year. But going from 1500 to 2500 could take decades if ever. 

*Me who has gotten to 1800 in less than a year*

Sure there are those who can do it a lot faster, and those that can do it slower. Likewise, we have 12-13 year old gms, but I just wanted to emphasize the difference in effort required to get to 1500 and from 1500 to GM. The better you get, more difficult and slower it takes to gain FIDE points. 

if I could go back to 5 years old & read chess books instead of terrorizing I could have become a GM. I could have been rich by now. I would have taken carlsen's eye out the back of his head for him.... I just know it bullet.png

 

THECHESSMAN_78
Terminator-T800 wrote:
nklristic wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
nklristic wrote:
Terminator-T800 wrote:

I'm 1400 & feel that I am near half way to grandmaster.  Maybe I'm wrong though , but that's what I feel when I watch the swollen heads play. They only seem twice as good as myself I recon. 

So what you got to say about that then trolls

You can get from a complete beginner to 1500 in less than a year. But going from 1500 to 2500 could take decades if ever. 

*Me who has gotten to 1800 in less than a year*

Sure there are those who can do it a lot faster, and those that can do it slower. Likewise, we have 12-13 year old gms, but I just wanted to emphasize the difference in effort required to get to 1500 and from 1500 to GM. The better you get, more difficult and slower it takes to gain FIDE points. 

if I could go back to 5 years old & read chess books instead of terrorizing I could have become a GM. I could have been rich by now. I would have taken carlsen's eye out the back of his head for him.... I just know it

 

nah tbh you have no actual chess talent if you've been playing for 5 years and are barely 1500 you have no talent being a prodigy requires talent no matter what age you start 

Anonymous_Dragon
THECHESSMAN_78 wrote:
Terminator-T800 wrote:
nklristic wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
nklristic wrote:
Terminator-T800 wrote:

I'm 1400 & feel that I am near half way to grandmaster.  Maybe I'm wrong though , but that's what I feel when I watch the swollen heads play. They only seem twice as good as myself I recon. 

So what you got to say about that then trolls

You can get from a complete beginner to 1500 in less than a year. But going from 1500 to 2500 could take decades if ever. 

*Me who has gotten to 1800 in less than a year*

Sure there are those who can do it a lot faster, and those that can do it slower. Likewise, we have 12-13 year old gms, but I just wanted to emphasize the difference in effort required to get to 1500 and from 1500 to GM. The better you get, more difficult and slower it takes to gain FIDE points. 

if I could go back to 5 years old & read chess books instead of terrorizing I could have become a GM. I could have been rich by now. I would have taken carlsen's eye out the back of his head for him.... I just know it

 

nah tbh you have no actual chess talent if you've been playing for 5 years and are barely 1500 you have no talent being a prodigy requires talent no matter what age you start 

You realise he was being sarcastic.?..don't you ?

Anonymous_Dragon
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
Anonymous_Dragon wrote:
THECHESSMAN_78 wrote:
Terminator-T800 wrote:
nklristic wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
nklristic wrote:
Terminator-T800 wrote:

I'm 1400 & feel that I am near half way to grandmaster.  Maybe I'm wrong though , but that's what I feel when I watch the swollen heads play. They only seem twice as good as myself I recon. 

So what you got to say about that then trolls

You can get from a complete beginner to 1500 in less than a year. But going from 1500 to 2500 could take decades if ever. 

*Me who has gotten to 1800 in less than a year*

Sure there are those who can do it a lot faster, and those that can do it slower. Likewise, we have 12-13 year old gms, but I just wanted to emphasize the difference in effort required to get to 1500 and from 1500 to GM. The better you get, more difficult and slower it takes to gain FIDE points. 

if I could go back to 5 years old & read chess books instead of terrorizing I could have become a GM. I could have been rich by now. I would have taken carlsen's eye out the back of his head for him.... I just know it

 

nah tbh you have no actual chess talent if you've been playing for 5 years and are barely 1500 you have no talent being a prodigy requires talent no matter what age you start 

You realise he was being sarcastic.?..don't you ?

I know, and I was playing into it too, can't you see?

I am not saying you . You see to whom I replied ?

Marie-AnneLiz
jmpchess12 a écrit :
little_guinea_pig wrote:

Look, I'm 2000 (2100 on a good day) and I consider myself intermediate at best.

You're not truly an expert unless you're one of the best of the best at what you do and you know pretty much everything that there is to know about it.

A 1200 is light-years away from being an "expert" or even a objectively strong player.

 

Since this is the first serious post I've seen in some time. I would say that a 1200 is strong relative to the general public and weak compared to the club player community (who in turn are weak compared to the pros).  The term expert has a specific meaning in chess lexicon that refers to players 2000-2200 strength OTB. 

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assassin3752
little_guinea_pig wrote:

Look, I'm 2000 (2100 on a good day) and I consider myself intermediate at best.

You're not truly an expert unless you're one of the best of the best at what you do and you know pretty much everything that there is to know about it.

A 1200 is light-years away from being an "expert" or even a objectively strong player.

guinea how do you consider yourself intermediate smh

2000-1200 is the point where you're suppose to be an expert or a master lol, so guinea's an expert to say the least.

assassin3752
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
darkbrah7654 wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:

Look, I'm 2000 (2100 on a good day) and I consider myself intermediate at best.

You're not truly an expert unless you're one of the best of the best at what you do and you know pretty much everything that there is to know about it.

A 1200 is light-years away from being an "expert" or even a objectively strong player.

guinea how do you consider yourself intermediate smh

2000-1200 is the point where you're suppose to be an expert or a master lol, so guinea's an expert to say the least.

Nah 2000+ is expert, 1800 is Advanced and 1500+ (or 1600+) is intermediate. 

no 1300+ is intermediate 1550+ is where you start to get a little bit advanced 1750+ is advanced and 1950+ is expert

Immaculate_Slayer
darkbrah7654 escreveu:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
darkbrah7654 wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:

Look, I'm 2000 (2100 on a good day) and I consider myself intermediate at best.

You're not truly an expert unless you're one of the best of the best at what you do and you know pretty much everything that there is to know about it.

A 1200 is light-years away from being an "expert" or even a objectively strong player.

guinea how do you consider yourself intermediate smh

2000-1200 is the point where you're suppose to be an expert or a master lol, so guinea's an expert to say the least.

Nah 2000+ is expert, 1800 is Advanced and 1500+ (or 1600+) is intermediate. 

no 1300+ is advanced 1550+ is where you start to get a little bit advanced 1750+ is advanced and 1950+ is expert

I personally consider 200+ expert, but alright.

lfPatriotGames

How many times have we all heard someone say "you know how to play chess? Are you a grandmaster?"

I suppose if someone thinks 300ish ability is typical grandmaster strength then 150-200 probably would be expert. 

assassin3752
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
darkbrah7654 wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
darkbrah7654 wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:

Look, I'm 2000 (2100 on a good day) and I consider myself intermediate at best.

You're not truly an expert unless you're one of the best of the best at what you do and you know pretty much everything that there is to know about it.

A 1200 is light-years away from being an "expert" or even a objectively strong player.

guinea how do you consider yourself intermediate smh

2000-1200 is the point where you're suppose to be an expert or a master lol, so guinea's an expert to say the least.

Nah 2000+ is expert, 1800 is Advanced and 1500+ (or 1600+) is intermediate. 

no 1300+ is advanced 1550+ is where you start to get a little bit advanced 1750+ is advanced and 1950+ is expert

Are you kidding me? 1300+ is not advanced stop trying to twist facts to boost your ego.

sorry i meant 1300+ is intermediate lol

Marie-AnneLiz
ChesswithNickolay a écrit :
darkbrah7654 wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
darkbrah7654 wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:

Look, I'm 2000 (2100 on a good day) and I consider myself intermediate at best.

You're not truly an expert unless you're one of the best of the best at what you do and you know pretty much everything that there is to know about it.

A 1200 is light-years away from being an "expert" or even a objectively strong player.

guinea how do you consider yourself intermediate smh

2000-1200 is the point where you're suppose to be an expert or a master lol, so guinea's an expert to say the least.

Nah 2000+ is expert, 1800 is Advanced and 1500+ (or 1600+) is intermediate. 

no 1300+ is advanced 1550+ is where you start to get a little bit advanced 1750+ is advanced and 1950+ is expert

Are you kidding me? 1300+ is not advanced stop trying to twist facts to boost your ego.

He probably mean an advanced beginner wink.png

kevinluwx

@Hikaru75 - Material odds between 2000 & 2400 is 1.75 pawns. Material odds between 600 & 1000 is 7 pawns 

kevinluwx

@xor_eax_eax05 - The only real way to find out about your ELO rating is to play OTB tournaments. I'm rating 1500 in USCF and my rapid rating here is 1600, which is pretty accurate. You are simply deluded by the extensive rating inflation in sites like Lichess and gameknot, because everyone's starting rating is so high. 

xor_eax_eax05

Not sure what you mean, I already said I dont play in Lichess and on Gameknot you start at 1200. Hardly extensive inflated ratings because "starting rating is so high".

As a matter of fact the highest rated players on GK are hovering above 2600 elo, just like the best Daily players on this site.

Anyway, here's another very equal game of mine against a 2000+ player who unfortunately blundered by pushing the h pawn on move 34. Note how Im in time to crown a Queen and then hold a King and 3 connected pawns with just a Queen before bringing in the King. 

 *Totally* 1100 elo player, right.

Yes I missed mate in two, I should have seen that, but still won as he had no chance to win nor stalemate:

 

 

 

kevinluwx

@xor_eax_eax05 - Starting at 1200 is extensive rating inflation because your average beginner is around 500-600 level. Same with lichess in where rating inflation isn't as bad at the top end level, but huge rating inflation in the lower range.