The curious case of 1200: The Expert's rating

@chuck639 - You are a solid 1300. I don't see much basic blunders. Much better player than @xor_eax_eax05

@ExploringWA - You claim that 1100 players here use engine, yet I never have trouble beating players at this level. They blunder, you just blunder more. 

@ExploringWA Ratings on lichess are indeed 400-600 points infllated. This is based on data from hundreds of OTB players with FIDE ratings.

There are several of players on this thread with corresponding OTB ratings that would support it. 

@AunTheKnight is 1300 USCF rated and 1600 here and 2000 on lichess. 

@Marie-AnneLiz is 1800 FIDE rated and 1900 here. 

I myself is 1500 USCF rated, 1600 here, 2100 on lichess

@ExploringWA - Cheaters are generally crowded in the 2000+ rating space. They do not have any effect on your poor play here

I mean… my Lichess rapid is 2000, and mine here is 1600. They can indeed by that inflated.

1000s blunder a lot. Heck, I do. I have no clue what you are talking about. 

 No, I wont. You only seem to play low time control. If you want to improve at chess play slow games. Dont play twitchy bullet, blitz, or even 10 minute rapid if your goal is to improve.

 Besides, it'd do you better service to learn to analyse your own slow games. For example, get a free engine such as Stockfish, and a graphical interface such as SCID vs PC

"http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net"

Find where things have gone wrong in your games and what the engine thinks about the position, and what could have been done differently (but dont get caught in lengthy variations because you will never be able to play at the engine's full strength). Rather consider what the engine's main idea is, instead of trying to memorise / follow its exact lines. 

 Learn to play long term strategy / positional thinking - when you are 1300 and all you think about is tactics, if you can't find a tactic during the game (which will happen often), then you will not know move to do next. You will do whatever and you may easily weaken your position. You need to know what to move in those cases in order to improve your position, or at least, not worsen it.

 But the most important part of it, if you are really serious about chess get a mentor that will teach you how to improve? What resources to use, how to analyse your own games, what to focus on, etc?

 Im not doing that, In my opinion any u2000 player is not qualified enough to teach those things. Find someone who's higher than that and who's got a track record of teaching and mentoring. Because, just because they are high rated does not mean they are good teachers. One thing it is to play chess well, another is to be able to convey that knowledge and teach.

 And dont ever listen to @kevinluwx. He claimed a few errors per game put me way below 1000 elo level but then you go to his games and you see he's doing as much as 14 mistakes / inaccuracies / blunders per game. He's hilarious.

 The funniest thing was I showed him a game from Kramnik (when he was a World Champion), earlier today in this very same thread, and he claimed it was a pathetic game at u800 elo strength, with no depth or tactical thinking whatsoever. That's how good his chess appraisal is. 

I dont know what is my rating.

I am 1200 here at forum, but when I playing it says I am 640.

It is because you have not played any daily games. 

Thanks guys. Appreciate the kind comments and positive feed back. I’ll continue on working with my game and hope I can jump right in there with the 1500 pool of players as I’ll be unrated.

Thank-you!

Thats Koopa my American Bulldog.

I appreciate the tips. You are dead on with 10 minutes games being unfit for me. 

I play well with 15/10 or higher timed games online. I just need the extra time to calculate things thru.

I actually played a 1500 player OTB last weekend in classical time controls and it was nice to carefully think on every move without feeling rush.

Needless to say, I went 5-0 and the time flew by fast.

@xor_eax_eax05 - Actually that game has 2 mistakes and 1 blunder, still better than your average game play quality. 

@AunTheKnight is 1300 USCF rated and 1600 here 

@Marie-AnneLiz is 1800 FIDE rated and 1900 here. 

The fact that several other users on this thread other than myself have OTB ratings slightly worse proves that the ELO system here does NOT underestimate your abilities. If you're 1000 ELO here, then you real ELO is closer to 800-900 

Honestly, who cares what 1200 is? I was told in my youth that 1200 was the beginning of the intermediate levels. I didn't understand why that mattered then and I still don't. 

xor_eax_eax05  is still learning the basics like "don't hang your queen for no reason". It's not hard to see their playing strength, just check their games. They lose to low rated players in games that aren't at all above the standard for that rating. 

Why is everyone arguing with the person claiming to be much stronger than their chess.com rating? They are either delusional, trolling, or very bizarrely underrated on chess.com. In any of the 3 cases it's pointless arguing with them. 

hola!

The last time 1200 was considered worth much, there wasn't a computer that could beat a GM at chess. As you've likely noticed from the comments, it means less and less as technology assists development, and learning materials become available at little to no cost, and presented in formats that make studying chess less exclusivist. Does it represent a hump, well... yeah, according to some. You have to start knowing lines for a many openings, or be 'talented' with calculations. I've been yo-yoing around 1200 or so for 12 months. Barely any time for study. It's still fun.

Soz. Didn't notice someone just resurrected this from 6 weeks ago. Because why?!? 

I gather you started your account on a mobile device. If you start it on PC you get a choice of ratings range when you start. On mobile you don't get that option for whatever reason.