The Female Brain Relating to Chess (kinda)

We only get one of these men vs. women threads once a week. Let's not ruin it by calling someone an idiot.

Peace out.

gandhidog

cheater_1 ?? missing the capital heading though.... ?

The women that do like the game are probably the more exceptional ones (you know, likes mathematics, problem solving, finds this natural) while the women that don't many won't be like that and would have a harder time becoming good than someone who found it natural. It is assumed however that more (not only of course, merely more) men thrive in that kind of stuff, it's just something we've all heard a lot which there probably is a source for but I can't be sure.

So if more men are like that, this gives more potential for world champion players of course. Out of the women that do play, my guess would be that they have more mathematical minds and are probably relatively equal to the men that do play, but because they tend to be less obsessive as well (also they say that there are more geniuses and dumbasses that are men while women are more consistent, and it often takes a genius [who likes chess!] to be world champ), they may not have the patience to, like at the WC level, to go insane and come up with these novelties in openings 20-30 moves deep, which is often what it takes to get an edge in games of that level.

Also it's natural to think that they aren't quite as encouraged as the men either, but anyway I highly doubt the reason is only onefold. All of these ideas are only guesses of course, but it's certainly not because men are superior or more intelligent than women.

Thanks for "enlightening" us. But I'd like to point out a few details. You did not incorporate randomness into your analogy- when someone starts to play chess they have no idea if they are a Viper or a Moped, or if they will have the capability to become a Viper. When you are pulling a random population, some of them will be good and some of them will be bad. If you have fewer people overall, you will probably have fewer good players.

How many black hockey players are there? Not a whole lot. There is one black all-star in the history of the game. Nor are there any British players in the NHL. There is no physical or mental difference- it is a cultural difference, which creates an underrepresentation both in terms of total players and elite talent.

If few people are drawn to the game, it follows that you will have fewer people who happen to have a talent for it (as well as fewer patzers). That is what seems to be the case to me- low interest, low participation, low ratings.

Right on dued, remember, its not about winning or loseing, its about ghetting your king to the otheir side man.

[moderated - settle down]

I was wondering to myself today how much personality influences such things -- I guess these people actually did a study around it so it wasn't such a bad thought.

I was thinking, I wonder if I had been interested at a young age, what kind of things I could have been proficient in.  Surely a large number of different things, many of them highly improbable in a practical sense not because of any kind of mental capacity, but because I'd have no interest.

The Polgar sisters were caught at a young age and forced through it -- I don't remember seeing anywhere that they were particularly gifted otherwise.  I'm thinking you take the average male or female and put them through the same thing I'm thinking you'd get a 2400-2500 level player... of course by the end of it they may hate you and may hate chess, but it would prove a certain potential.

No problem... as long as we don't look on your profile and find out you're older than 13-14 or something... then you'd just be embarrassing yourself.

did you mean "taught " ?

Naa, their dad decided for them before they were born to put them through the intensive study, so I said caught on purpose

You seem to care an awful lot about what I think, otherwise you wouldn't be so juiced up about it.

Wrong again (surprise, surprise). I couldn't possibly care any less about you or trysts. In case you haven't noticed, you're not the only one here, dumbass.

Exactly, you're still here and swearing like you cut your foot off, which you wouldn't be if you didn't care.

Oh my god, how f***ing stupid are you? I swear, if they had any sort of device that could measure stupidity, it would be on a scale from 1 to you. I said I don't care about WHAT YOU THINK. I'm not here because of you. Period. You should be honored that I'm even recognizing your incredibly stupid posts with replies. I'm here for the other people posting in this thread, not you. Got it? Them. Not you. One more time. THEM... NOT YOU. Get over yourself you narcissistic ass.

 As a 13-14 year old, I find that very offensive.

Oh, you're yelling and swearing at me for their sake. Yeah that makes perfect sense. I'm sure they appreciate your behavior.

On the bright side, the more you swear, the sooner this thread will get locked.

Wow... congratulations... for the first time in this entire thread... I'm speechless. I simply could never have imagined someone as unable to understand something that is blatantly being spelled out for them as you could exist. I've got just one question... Do you have to like listen to a recording of someone telling you to inhale and exhale on continuous loop in order for you to stay alive?

Just when we were having fun...

EDIT: I think its funny that you say you're speechless... then you keep talking...

<Gasp!> He noticed me!!!!!!!!!!!