The 'Pointlessness' of Chess

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victhestick
victhestick wrote:
oinquarki wrote:

Wow! This is the craziest coincidence! Pointless was my word of the day today!!!!! What are the odds of that?


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oinquarki
oinquarki wrote:

Wow! This is the craziest coincidence! Pointless was my word of the day today!!!!! What are the odds of that?


 You see, that is the meaning of life; the thrill and excitement and entertainment of discovering something new and possibly amazing.Discovery and pursuit for happiness are the meaning of life. From simple coincidences such as that one, which can make a person laugh, to the Apollo lunar landing which made billions of people look up at the sky with awe, and wonder what else waits to be discovered in this world and in other ones. The meaning of life is in the discovery of new things, from a brilliant work of art to a wise chess move. People who believe in the pointlessness of such things will never accomplish them, and will live their life in misery. pointlessness (the person) is not such a person, he/she started a large debate and made many people read his/her writing, and even this provides a feeling of accomplishment, for he/she will look at all of these posts and say proudly, "I made this happen." and even that is part of life's meaning. 

Phelon
You are wrong. It has been PROVEN that chess increases kids grades, helps to deter the onslaught of alhzeimers, and improves your mental faculties in general. It also helps improve concentration and provides a means of escape from ones problems. I ask you what is the point of living if you do not work at something you enjoy and have fun? Everything from reading, to socializing with others, to basically doing anything but sleeping and eating and sex, is rendered pointless by your arguement. Life needs to be enjoyable and chess brings happiness to people.
dhlesq
Pointlessness wrote:

Chess does nothing to better humanity. Not that it should, not that it could, but it is not doing anything productive in any way at all. Time is limited on earth, anyone can go at any time. So chess can be for fun I suppose, but really it is pointless.


Offered for your reflection:

It's all fun and games until you reproduce.

Then you work hard to guarantee the reproduction of your offspring.

The it's all fun and games until you die.

Chess falls into the "all fun and games" category.

 

David

dlordmagic

Chess is excersise for the brain. nothing pointless in that. I find television to be pointless, though at times it serves a purpose.

tigerrr

You are confusing two things: the point of a chess game is to achieve victory; for the player, however, the point of playing that game is to figure out how to do it - a skill that can be extrapolated to other areas of life. As a game, a thing in itself, chess is perfectly self-contained and therefore does not lead to any goal outside of itself (one may call it pointless). As a skill, it leads to all kinds of interesting things. I find that it helps my driving, for example, not to mention tennis - another perfectly pointless thing. Methinks, only things that are perfectly pointless within themselves are perfectly beautiful, because they point to something outside of themselves.

Pointlessness

Life is a game, related in one way or another to chess. But life is lived very immediate, so you must know of the incontestable point I speak of to live after the immediate life (life on earth). Chess is a game in life, grades, intellect, self gain, and anything else chess can give you are all things unimportant, don't think I'm trying to say chess does not help those who seek help from chess, it does, but those who know the truth will also know that the help chess can give you is irrelevant. That is all I'm trying to say.

DaPharaoh I also have a question to ask you, why in one of your earlier posts you claim that life is not in existence after death. Then in another you claim the main purpose of life is to worship God, worshipping God is so that you may receive life after death.

RandomPrecision

Why single out chess?  You could put almost any noun in its place and make the same nihilistic argument.

If you're in to that sort of thing, anyway.

Pointlessness

It is not just chess, but after all. We are on chess.com. I could put many things as its place because many people believe many false things.

TheDuke850
WanderingWinder wrote:
Pointlessness wrote:

Is this attention that I want? No, although that is what I am pulling towards me, it is not what I am ultimately striving for, I'm striving for understanding of the people of the world, it is hard to have your word spread across the world today, unless it is in something entertaining to humans, or of some importance to the majority of earth.You seem quite frustrated Chessbee, obviously my words were enough to drive you to express your thoughts of me for everyone to read. I am glad I humored you, but that is not what I intended, I would truly like to know what you beliefs on the matter are. So, if my thoughts are so ignorant and stupid, please enlighten me as to tell me in what way they are, by extending your wisdom to me, the stupid one as you say. But as I can see, you are not wanting to take part in this discussion. So please, until you are wanting to help anyone or anything at all, other than pleasing yourself by ranting on about how pathetic I am. Do not post - I would ask.


Clearly, pointlessness, you offer only contradictions. You say that chess is pointless. Why? To stop people from playing chess. Yet you admit to playing chess yourself. You say that survival is not important, but that there is a point in living. You cleaim that the point in life is to find the point in life - such a circular definition that if it was indeed fulfilled, it would defeat itself. You baldfacedly lie in saying that you do not want attention in the posting of this thread. You ask others to not post if they do not want to help others, yet you yourself post only attacks upon others and their ideas. Even so, I am posting to help others; I am posting to help you. For your beliefs have some semblances of actual merit and pointfulness within them, but you mar any of this by your fruitless ranting. And so realise that just because the main point in life may be one thing does not mean that other things are bad, unworthy, unnecessary, or pointless. A far more developed and mature argument would be that such things should not be seen as high priorities, and must be seen in their proper places, and here I really do not think that really anyone would argue with you. I seriously doubt that more than a handful of people in history have thought that chess was the be-all and end-all of life - not even Fischer as referenced above. So do us all (especially yourself) a favour and think - you were given your brain for a reason, so think, and do not merely make wild accusations for others' interest in yourself, for in stead of helping them, you hurt them.


 I am still waiting for a response from Pointlessness to this... and I thought I would bring it back up in case he missed it.

Awesomedrifter

Don't feed the trolls please

FerrBear

Life is a dance and we are simply the dancers.  The world is a big sandlot and all I there is to do is go play.  Anyone who takes life too seriously is only ignorant about life.  Tongue out

Phelon
Pointlessness wrote:

Life is a game, related in one way or another to chess. But life is lived very immediate, so you must know of the incontestable point I speak of to live after the immediate life (life on earth). Chess is a game in life, grades, intellect, self gain, and anything else chess can give you are all things unimportant, don't think I'm trying to say chess does not help those who seek help from chess, it does, but those who know the truth will also know that the help chess can give you is irrelevant. That is all I'm trying to say.

DaPharaoh I also have a question to ask you, why in one of your earlier posts you claim that life is not in existence after death. Then in another you claim the main purpose of life is to worship God, worshipping God is so that you may receive life after death.


I think you are very mistaken if you think there is anything except helping others, love, and god that is more important in this life than intellect. By admitting that chess helps to improve intellect you admit that chess is one of the most important parts of life.

Pointlessness

 I am not mistaken. Love for others, especially God, is what is more important than anything. Intellect is only what God has allowed you to understand about this world. Or to think you understand ;)

Pointlessness

On the contrary, I am gaining time. I am here to play chess... Why else? Yes I do like to express my views on chess so I can (hopefully) make people aware of how pointless chess really is, so that they may enjoy this website more maybe, or maybe quit chess entirely, it does not matter to me as long as they are with Christ.

Phelon
Pointlessness wrote:

 I am not mistaken. Love for others, especially God, is what is more important than anything. Intellect is only what God has allowed you to understand about this world. Or to think you understand ;)


 Ah so you agree with me good. So now you understand I assume?

Pointlessness

Do not play games with me Phelon.

Phelon

Well you kind of repeated what I had said so I assumed you had seen the light and were agreeing with me.

DojiSan
DaPharaoh wrote:

yea really there is no point to anything in life, ..


the point of life is for you to survive long enough so that you maybe can find a mate and produce an offspring so that you can pass on your genes. :)

TheDuke850
Pointlessness wrote:

 I am not mistaken. Love for others, especially God, is what is more important than anything. Intellect is only what God has allowed you to understand about this world. Or to think you understand ;)


 You say Intellect is what allows us to understand the world, chess builds the intellect and helps us understand the world better. ergo chess is useful and not totally without a point.