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There is luck in chess?

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Jaguarphd
Jaguarphd
Feb 13, 2008
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#81

Luck CAN play a part in this...

Lucky for you is when your opponet makes blunders  


bgianis
bgianis
Feb 17, 2008
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#82
BILL_5666 wrote:

  I don't know anything at all about my opponent.  I don't know if he plays better in open positions or closed positions.  I don't know if he prefers e pawn, d pawn, c pawn opening, or something more offbeat.  I don't know if he prefers classical or hypermodern.  Now if I knew that I was playing a stronger opponent who didn't have very good mastery of hypermodern, then I would play hypermodern.  But most of the time we don't know...and this is partly where the element of luck comes in.

You have a point here...But whatever your opponent does you can always respond and plan ahead.You remind me of sports.For example a basketball coach has made his plans before a game,but does not know what is in the opponent's mind.However,he can react during the game against the other coach.Of course,players' performance may vary from game to game,but chess pieces are always the same!Athletes with more skills sometimes lose from others with poorer perfomance,which can also happen in chess.I always keep in my mind the fact that nobody can remain at his/her top performance  every day,which stands for athletes,workers,doctors,writers,everybody.

My friends,for me,luck in a chess game is:

a)the opponent's blunders

b)the opponent's accidental poor performance or 'bad day',as we say in Greece

c)the opponent's unwillingness to think or concentrate at the moment

d)your personal condition during the game

But we can't say that a 2200 player has been luckier than a 1200 in a lifetime!!!


Jalex13
Jalex13
Jun 19, 2022
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#83
I know a few people who have wondered the same thing. You guys should check out the topic “Is there such a thing as luck in chess?”

Each person who contributes to that forum has an opinion of their own, thinking that the other’s are so distantly mentally challenged compared to themselves…little do they realize they are all the same, arguing about a pointless topic, to gain feelings of superiority and pride!
llama36
llama36
Closed: Inactive
Jun 19, 2022
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#84
Jalex13 wrote:
 You guys should check out the topic “Is there such a thing as luck in chess?”

You bump a 14 year old topic to say this?

Jalex13
Jalex13
Jun 19, 2022
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#85
Yes I did.
llama36
llama36
Closed: Inactive
Jun 19, 2022
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#86
Jalex13 wrote:
Yes I did.

Makes me think less of you. Oh well.

Jalex13
Jalex13
Jun 19, 2022
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#87
Oh well.
GM_Blunderfish
GM_Blunderfish
Jun 4, 2023
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#88

The luck element is random blunders in beginners.

jeu198
jeu198
Dec 23, 2023
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#89

There have been times when I rate one move as not necessarily the best move but more exciting. If I get a conservative opponent these outlandish moves, that a chess engine would slaughter me for, can be intimidating and successful. With my luck I usually do this against solid, conservative players who are unphased by my flamboyant moves and I lose. Occasionally though I'll check later and I made a move as good or, once, better than the top engine move that I thought at the time was a gamble. And in a way it was, one I one. So definitely there is an element of luck in chess, albeit a lower one than in other games.

CaroKannEnjoyer02
CaroKannEnjoyer02
Dec 23, 2023
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#90

No. In my ooinion, there is no luck in chess, aside from what players you get matched up with!

UsernameWithoutNumbers
UsernameWithoutNumbers
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Dec 23, 2023
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#91

Luck is not real

What seems like luck might be a part of your or your opponent's brain having headaches, or a computer glitch. Murphy's law dictates that what can happen will happen. When you made a mistake, your opponent isn't "lucky", he just makes fewer mistakes than you.

VelouriousFog
VelouriousFog
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Dec 24, 2023
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#92
In a deterministic universe, there is no luck. Any given move you or your opponent makes was determined at the moment of creation. No matter how much you think about moving this or that piece, it is already set in stone.

But, whilst I believe luck does not exist as any real substance or essence, it is perfectly valid to use as an adjective. This or that was lucky, e.g. winning the lottery, the bird poop just missing you, or your opponent not seeing your queen you just left hanging.

So no there is not luck and yes there are things that are lucky.
GabyNguyen
GabyNguyen
Dec 24, 2023
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#93

Luck if your opponent runs out of time in a game

LightningStorm_07
LightningStorm_07
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Dec 24, 2023
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#94
Sometimes, I panic thinking I hung a piece, but it turns out to be defended by something.
pcalugaru
pcalugaru
Dec 24, 2023
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#95

There is 6 Trillion possible moves in the game of Chess (yes that is true) of course there is luck.

UsernameWithoutNumbers
UsernameWithoutNumbers
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Dec 24, 2023
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#96
Optimissed wrote:

It has been amply demonstated that anyone who believes there's no luck in chess believes in mirages rather than reality. There have been many other threads on this subject and no-one has been able to support their belief that luck applies to everything else in the universe but not to chess. It's pointless to go through all the shallow arguments again. Just look at an old thread on the subject. Luck exists at all levels of chess.

What I am saying is that there is no luck. The universe is deterministic, and everything is pre-determined. There is not a "50% chance" of opponent misclicking, he either misclick or didn't misclick.