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A loss counts against, a draw counts for thus: Maybe they are hoping you make a mistake and they "score" a draw? Who knows sir, who knows?

I think either they simply do not realise your frustration, they do not know in your eyes they are being foolish and are wasting your time?, they are desperate to just play, whatever the cause and or reason, you can CHOOSE to ALLOW it to upset you, or you can CHOOSE to DIS-ALLOW it to upset you and just smile!? Life is short sir, make the most of it and be gratefull for what you have!

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Salaskan wrote:

I'm willing to bet that I'm spending over 50% of my time on live chess playing out positions that are already clearly won. All those pathetic griefers who play on in positions where they're down a full rook without any compensation are sickening me to no end. Some players on this site are extremely immature and can't acknowledge their loss, so they will just waste your time by pointlessly dragging out the game. It's become impossible for me to play a game with longer (15m+) time controls because if I have a won position after a few minutes, chances are that my opponent will still use all his remaining time and let me sit there frustrated. If any of these people behaved the same way in a club, no one would want to play against them, but they can just get away with it on the internet. The fun I have on this site playing interesting chess is just ruined by the boredom from having to wait endlessly every time I've won a game.

If I kindly ask my opponent to resign so we can play another game and save time, 90% won't respond at all (sometimes because they don't even understand English) and 10% will say 'just play'. The lack of any normal communicative reason in these people is appalling.

Chess.com, could you please do something against this rude behaviour? Just make it clear to players that they're expected to resign in hopeless positions and make it possible to report anyone who doesn't. If you investigate the reports and find that someone will, out of grief, never resign, warn them or take measures.


    

Avatar of Danny_BLT

i'd rather play on than run the clock down like most of you clowns!!!!

Avatar of ClemsonTiger

Players have the right to play on in any position until checkmate is reached. If the game is won, prove it by crushing their defense.

Avatar of Pat_Zerr

Oh boy!  Another "Why won't they resign?" thread! 

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1pawndown wrote:

I wonder if those who complain resign as readily as they wish their opponents would?


I actually do, just to give the right example, but then when I win the rematch they decide to play it out anyway. Perhaps some of them think it's actually fun to checkmate your opponent and don't mind being humiliated themselves, so they might not have unsportsmanlike intentions per se, which is why I kindly tell them in chat that I wouldn't mind if they resigned. I have seen this work in perhaps 10% of cases :P

gbidari wrote:

I feel your pain bro. There's a guy at our club that plays out lost games to mate. These types will sooner or later have to deal with karma. For example, one day when he was crossing the street I saw him getting hit in the back of the head by a giant water balloon. He fell face first into the curb and died.


I couldn't help but laugh out loud.

 

ClemsonTiger wrote:

Players have the right to play on in any position until checkmate is reached. If the game is won, prove it by crushing their defense.


Sometimes I'll just torture them by practicing my bishop+knight endgame technique on them.

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I'm sure many of the people claiming that one should resign when clearly lost have had positions that were very close to that (or possibly lost) that ended up being drawn and possibly won after an inaccuracy or blunder by their opponent.

I'm not saying a hung piece blunder but one that allows a perpetual check (and the resulting draw from triple repetition of position or 50 moves). I know I have had some games where I felt I was lost but I have played on some and in a few, I have been able to gain a draw. I've had positions where I thought I was lost, been able to guarantee a draw and then missed that I actually had a win.

People make mistakes, even GMs. If you always resign when you are behind you will never learn how to defend a lost position. If you keep throwing out complications for the winning side you increase the chances that they can err.

In live chess (at quicker time controls) this is especially true. I have played a number of games in my club where the clock (or just quick play when no clock was involved) caused blunders and stalemates.

If you start a game with a given time control then expect that you will be playing until the last second and someone flags. If you can't handle that then play faster time controls until you get to the point where you don't mind the amount of time spent actually trying to win your won game.

This is all contingent on the losing player actually playing out the game and not just letting the clock run down. If they are actively engaged in the game, then play it out and get the win that you obviously see.

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IF i said it once i have said it a hundred times : YOUR OPPONENT IS NOT THERE TOO ACCOMMODATE YOUR TIME SCHEDULE !! the decision to surrender his king belongs to him not YOU !! If you want my resignation show me your "path" to victory and is it consistent with the skillful conduct that you have displayed during this contest. if you have, then you have "earned" and will get my resignation. If you have mastered the art of winning the "won"  game please accept my humble apology for wasting your time! Cool   

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mateologist wrote:

IF i said it once i have said it a hundred times : YOUR OPPONENT IS NOT THERE TOO ACCOMMODATE YOUR TIME SCHEDULE !! the decision to surrender his king belongs to him not YOU !! If you want my resignation show me your "path" to victory and is it consistent with the skillful conduct that you have displayed during this contest. if you have, then you have "earned" and will get my resignation. If you have mastered the art of winning the "won"  game please accept my humble apology for wasting your time!    


 Well said.

Avatar of pathfinder416

Recently a player complained because I took a perpetual check. I had sacrificed a piece to open up his kingside, but soon found I couldn't mate and all I had left was the forced draw. I felt bad (about the miscalculated attack) until he complained about the perpetual ... and then I felt really, really good :).

But more to the point of this discussion, he's on my blocked list for unsportsmanlike conduct. That's your only remedy here, and to have any wide-scale effect it needs to be used en masse. Perhaps with a note in our profiles saying what we're doing and why - I should do this myself.

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N2UHC wrote:

Oh boy!  Another "Why won't they resign?" thread! 


Yes... this is getting ridiculous

Avatar of ShadowIKnight

Ive got a way to end this topic.

There are unfair things in life that no1 can do anything about them. Its like the law, where torrent sites cant be taken down, or prositution stopped (but thats good! xD).

Accept it and move on... no? To me, this is more like a post to let off steam and get it off your chest. We acknowledge ur annoyance+pain, but, like countless threads, it appears that there isn't anything chess.com can do against this.

Avatar of Worther

You play the board not the person- they don't resign- so be it. Grind them into dirt. Complaining about them not resigning shows less maturity then them not resigning a lost position.

Avatar of polydiatonic

Play UNRATED and then if you get bored abandon the game.

Avatar of Worther

I was thinking of taking up checkers- drinking gin and tonic while I play and napping between moves. If the game annoys me or does not go my way, I'll filp the board over and stomp  away. Or I'll ask my opponent to resign. No gin for you!!Cry

Avatar of RabbiChris

Perhaps he might complain if the opponent has one move left before checkmate, offers you a draw (Yeah right!) and then refuses to move any more because you declined the "draw"? This is happening to me however, I know I won and learned something, if only patience with the other higher ranked players impatience and unsportman like behaviour. So what? C'Est La Vie!

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El_Senior wrote:

Nobody is obligated to resign because YOU think they are busted.

If you can't handle that, perhaps chess is not for you.


Amen

Avatar of Pat_Zerr

I just think it's funny that people come here to play chess and then complain because they have to play when their opponents won't give up.  If you agree to play a 15 minute live game, then prepare to spend 30 minutes playing the game.  If you don't want to spend that much time, then choose a shorter game.  If you're playing online chess, then play other games while waiting for your opponent to move. 

I do agree that stalling is unsportsmanlike and childish, but it just shows them to be the loser and only prolongs their agony of losing.  But you don't ever have to play that person again.

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ChristianSoldier007 wrote:

International master Jeremy Silman suggests to beginners to play out every game to the end for you will learn something from it


 I agree, but that is no longer the OP's case anymore, I think he admits that part is fine, but now hes complaining about the stallers (I think) who just sit there... Please correct me if im wrong. However, we have seen WAY too many of these threads.

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N2UHC wrote:

I just think it's funny that people come here to play chess and then complain because they have to play when their opponents won't give up.  If you agree to play a 15 minute live game, then prepare to spend 30 minutes playing the game.  If you don't want to spend that much time, then choose a shorter game.  If you're playing online chess, then play other games while waiting for your opponent to move. 

I do agree that stalling is unsportsmanlike and childish, but it just shows them to be the loser and only prolongs their agony of losing.  But you don't ever have to play that person again.


 In live chess I think its best to develope a string of players that you like to play that are like minded... resigning in truely lost positions.