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Niven42 wrote:

Well, I've been on the site 2 years now, and I can tell you that the "Cheating Horse" has been seriously beaten until dead.  You're better off just finding something else to talk about.


A dead horse still needs beating to prepare the meat for burgers.

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goldendog wrote:

The censorship has been ridiculous on occasion. In the cheating forum I said that we should trust the top-3 match up method first and foremost, as a methodology we can see and test ourselves. This comment got deleted.


But they were right to delete it. If we trust the top-3 methodology, 95% of those above 2500 should go play somewhere else. That would be like 300 strong players.

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What part of "this is not the cheating forum" is unclear?

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every forum is a 'cheating' forum to costelus - an' I believe he has a genuine point - I is heartily sick of playin' bloody computers - that is not why I is here Smile

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jonnyjupiter wrote:

Yawn. Costelus is off again. He could copy and paste most of his posts.


I think I'll copy and paste that one. It speaks for me! (And made me laugh.)

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ilikeflags wrote:
CPawn wrote:

It amazes me that people that agree to the term of service when they sign up for this site now have issues with it.  If you didnt agree with the terms that YOU agreed to then why did you sign up?

That whole "big brother" mentality is self defeating.  If you truely dont agree with what goes on here, then start your own chess site with your own rules. 

I might even jon if i agree with the site rules 


i do feel self-defeated.  i couldn't figure out why.  this must be it.

or maybe chess.com's inconsistency and waffley-ness really is annoying and we should talk about it.


Agreed that this site is plauged with inconsistencies.  And that is the reason i have seriously cut back on my time here.  I have been warned repeatedly in chat not to discuss religion (which i understand) but post after post where people are discussing drug use, how high they are, lets smoke a bowl, are repeatedly allowed.  And when i asked why i get warned and they dont?  The answer i always get is something along the lines of we cant monitor everything all the time.  But amazingly eveytime i type God or God Bless or Jesus i get a warning.   

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Weird.  I think as long as you're not proselytizing religion or drug use...there should be no violation by mere mention of it?  Have you ever had God bless deleted seriously?

I made a little joke on tactics trainer because I thought it's what came to mind...and it referenced a drug that I've never even seen...but I got a warning and deletion on that too.  Also...is it wrong to tell someone to "stop smoking crack" when they say something crazy?  lol

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A few years ago I was invited to be a moderator on another site; nothing to do with chess, these were forums supporting multi-language dictionaries. I was flattered to be asked, and accepted, and did it, unpaid, for several months. I quite enjoyed the status, and chatting with my fellow moderators. 

I found that I very rarely needed to intervene. Quite often I would read a post and think "that's not quite right." But then I would think about it, and if it wasn't truly offensive and didn't flagrantly break the rules, I would leave it be. 

My fellow moderators seemed to be much more inclined to act. A favourite was to post a reply saying "this has been asked before; look it up!" and close the thread. That seems to me unnecessary. The point of forums is discussion. OK, most discussions do echo previous ones: that is no reason not to have them. You don't gain much by closing a thread. It is still there, people have the annoyance of reading it, and then the extra annoyance, if they feel inclined to comment, that they can't do so in the natural way by posting a reply.

In the end I was dropped from the moderators team, and one of the reasons given was that I hadn't been active enough. But no one complained that the boards I looked after were not moderated enough. Go figure.

I don't know if it all works the same way here. But I suppose my point is, especially if the powers that be are reading this, that in moderating, less is more. Almost always.

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ilikeflags wrote:
CPawn wrote:
ilikeflags wrote:
CPawn wrote:

It amazes me that people that agree to the term of service when they sign up for this site now have issues with it.  If you didnt agree with the terms that YOU agreed to then why did you sign up?

That whole "big brother" mentality is self defeating.  If you truely dont agree with what goes on here, then start your own chess site with your own rules. 

I might even jon if i agree with the site rules 


i do feel self-defeated.  i couldn't figure out why.  this must be it.

or maybe chess.com's inconsistency and waffley-ness really is annoying and we should talk about it.

 


Agreed that this site is plauged with inconsistencies.  And that is the reason i have seriously cut back on my time here.  I have been warned repeatedly in chat not to discuss religion (which i understand) but post after post where people are discussing drug use, how high they are, lets smoke a bowl, are repeatedly allowed.  And when i asked why i get warned and they dont?  The answer i always get is something along the lines of we cant monitor everything all the time.  But amazingly eveytime i type God or God Bless or Jesus i get a warning.   


yeah i remeber your saying you were leaving the site a few weeks ago.

i'm not a fan of all the "god bless" stuff people throw around--in general, but i can't say i think it should be worthy of a warning. 


 I had left for awhile, but a tournament i had entered had started.  To be fair id like to see if things change. 

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costelus wrote:

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I don't remember what I wrote there. But it proves a very interesting point: Big Brother chess.com has nothing better to do than to watch for the validity of the comments made by users in the forums. May I suggest a different approach? Instead of treating us like your stupid puppets and expect us to write what you want, isn't it better that yuo write everything that's needed and remove the discussion forums?

I said once, I'll repeat it: this site gets worse and worse as day pass. I am on the point of regretting that I ever came to play here, on a site which I hoped at that time that it would become a serious competitor for ICC.

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costelus wrote:
costelus wrote:

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I don't remember what I wrote there. But it proves a very interesting point: Big Brother chess.com has nothing better to do than to watch for the validity of the comments made by users in the forums. May I suggest a different approach? Instead of treating us like your stupid puppets and expect us to write what you want, isn't it better that yuo write everything that's needed and remove the discussion forums?

I said once, I'll repeat it: this site gets worse and worse as day pass. I am on the point of regretting that I ever came to play here, on a site which I hoped at that time that it would become a serious competitor for ICC.


 You did read and agree to the terms of service correct?

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We must all remember that space  available to site is not unlimited, even tho' amount of it is amazing to judge by published content.Already there is need to conserve space and editing the  superfluous helps to do  so..

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CPawn wrote:

 You did read and agree to the terms of service correct?


No, I didn't. I read it now and it is disturbing:

'"Chess.com and its designees shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to pre-screen, refuse, or move any Content that is available via the Service".

So I understand that chess.com can delete anytime anything we write here just because they can!  Thank you CPawn! Well, I guess that I will leave Erik and Kohai and others from the staff to play hide-and-seek with their site and with the other kids here and I will close my account.

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costelus wrote:
CPawn wrote:

 You did read and agree to the terms of service correct?


No, I didn't. I read it now and it is disturbing:

'"Chess.com and its designees shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to pre-screen, refuse, or move any Content that is available via the Service".

So I understand that chess.com can delete anytime anything we write here just because they can!  Thank you CPawn! Well, I guess that I will leave Erik and Kohai and others from the staff to play hide-and-seek with their site and with the other kids here and I will close my account.


wow, if that scares you off, then you should read every ToS on every site you ever visit. they all the the same thing or worse. 

adios!

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Found you, Erik!

My turn to hide. You count to 100. No peeping, now!

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erik wrote:
costelus wrote:
CPawn wrote:

 You did read and agree to the terms of service correct?


No, I didn't. I read it now and it is disturbing:

'"Chess.com and its designees shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to pre-screen, refuse, or move any Content that is available via the Service".

So I understand that chess.com can delete anytime anything we write here just because they can!  Thank you CPawn! Well, I guess that I will leave Erik and Kohai and others from the staff to play hide-and-seek with their site and with the other kids here and I will close my account.


wow, if that scares you off, then you should read every ToS on every site you ever visit. they all the the same thing or worse. 

adios!


I never read because I expect the site admins to have a rational attitude. That means, if you have a discussion forum, you don't control each and every post of the users for validity. After all, if all users are only allowed to express the official view, what's the need of a discussion forum? It looks that for you rational attitude has another meaning.

Yeah, good bye too! Remain with the cheaters you love so much!

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Costelus you are out of line. There is an open forum where you can complain all you want. On the public forums, it his best business interest to maintain a level of civility. Honestly all you ever do is complain about chess.com. Just leave already. 

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can we add 'my opponent won't resign ' and ' the player im playing is moving slowly cos he is losing' to that list of forums that should be nipped in the bud please.

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Karl_ wrote:
bondiggity wrote:

Costelus you are out of line. There is an open forum where you can complain all you want. On the public forums, it his best business interest to maintain a level of civility. Honestly all you ever do is complain about chess.com. Just leave already. 


Maybe one of his friends can start a goodbye topic for him.  We could all go there to say goodbye.  Kinda like a party.  Or a celebration.  LOL


I thought you were the guy all about spreading love?  Why are you trying to hurt another human being's feelings?

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