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plenny of crazies round here, Reb 
glad I not the only one !! 
I tends to agree with costelus' point of view, but I do wish he'd grow a pair
Mar 18, 2010
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CPawn wrote:
polydiatonic wrote:
It seems to me that now that there's this "kids" chess.com thingy maybe the overlords here could mellow out on the moderation activities since the rational has been about how we have to keep it "clean" for the kids who come here.
Its more than just about the kids. There are members here that dont appreciate seeing posts that are in bad taste, disrespectful to others, or are just plain rude. It shouldnt be hard to have enough self control to come here, play chess, have a good time, and be respectful to others.
If you feel the uncontrollable need to act immature go to yahoo chess.
I am sick and tired of "yahoos" like you telling me and others, essentially: "america, love it leave it". You can stuff it buddy. We are at liberty to discuss and opine at our will and you can suck it up and deal with it.
My issue is with the "heavy handedness" and arbitrary nature of the censorhip of some of the staff.
smileative wrote:
plenny of crazies round here, Reb glad I not the only one !! I tends to agree with costelus' point of view, but I do wish he'd grow a pair
How is it possible for costelus to grow a bigger pair than he has? he is the most outspoken member of Chess.com and doesn't mind ruffling a few feathers. Please explain your comment, it makes no sense to me.
EDIT: ah, thinly veiled sarcasm... my Spidey Senses let me down this time.
Mar 18, 2010
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CPAWN:
My point remains that if chess.com is making a concerted effort to make this site more "adult" and the kids site more "non-adult" then why not allow the content to be a bit more edgy here? That DOES NOT MEAN I'm advocating for animated porn pieces or vile foul mouthed flame wars.
Grow up, or perhaps you should head over to the children's site.
We are all pawns on this bus.
Mar 18, 2010
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AfafBouardi wrote:
I feel bad for costelus. I think he was very emotionally invested in this site and I wish Erik had not said adios. Maybe there's more to it than this TOS thing. I don't really know.
i did all i could for costelus. i tried SOOO hard to work with him, including a personal phone call to him a few months back. but he can't stop whatever it is inside of him that makes him act the way he does. and frankly, i can't stand it anymore. if allowing him to act however he wants makes even 2 people leave the site, then we're going backwards. everyone on chess.com should be a positive influence on other people, not a negative one. and once somebody goes into "negative" mode where they are driving other people away, and can't turn it around after a few friendly and sincere messages, then what more can we do?
Mar 18, 2010
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polydiatonic wrote:
CPAWN:
My point remains that if chess.com is making a concerted effort to make this site more "adult" and the kids site more "non-adult" then why not allow the content to be a bit more edgy here? That DOES NOT MEAN I'm advocating for animated porn pieces or vile foul mouthed flame wars.
Grow up, or perhaps you should head over to the children's site.
it's a fair point. that said, family-friendly doesn't necessarily mean kid-friendly. i run this site in the way that i think will maximize the happiness of the largest number of people (what can i say, i'm a utilitarian). this means that some prudes will be offended, and some free-speachers will be irritated. well what can i do - i can't please them both. so again, we have tried to pick a fair line to try to allow people maximum freedom while protecting some sense of general good. again, it won't please everyone. below i've pasted the topics that are not allowed. i also want to recognize that we don't always do a 100% perfect job of moderating. we're humans, and sometimes we make mistakes, have emotions, etc. we're trying to get better at being consistent.
thanks for your patience. we're one big family, and it isn't always easy to get along ;)
wah heyy!!! think u got it pretty much right erik !!but good thing to explain it to the eejits btw, is I still allowed to use small adjective ' bloody' ? - it not normally offensive, but it an emphatic sometimes people doesn't understand the difference
costelus is about as huggable as a porcupine but he did a very good job of afflicting the garden pests (ouachita on down). He had a real and valued function here, and not only in my eyes. He will be missed by us.
But hey, he was cute when he was young.
Awwwwww!
awwwwww indeed, friendly and sincere- when my son was 3 he called it a poke-you pine
What I find more distasteful is the "forum clique" here that think they are the moral ruler of all things chess.com.
Mar 18, 2010
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erik wrote:
i did all i could for costelus. i tried SOOO hard to work with him, including a personal phone call to him a few months back. but he can't stop whatever it is inside of him that makes him act the way he does. and frankly, i can't stand it anymore. if allowing him to act however he wants makes even 2 people leave the site, then we're going backwards. everyone on chess.com should be a positive influence on other people, not a negative one. and once somebody goes into "negative" mode where they are driving other people away, and can't turn it around after a few friendly and sincere messages, then what more can we do?
Consider temporary forum bans. If a member gets too far out of line with abusive comments, set it so that he or she cannot post in the forums for one month. Most people will reform after one ban. Repeat offenders, after perhaps three forum bans, can be ejected from the site.
IMHO, the things people are complaining about are much easier to deal with than what you're going to run into in every day life. I mean, if this stuff bugs you enough to freak out about, I can't imagine you being able to hold down a job for longer than a week. "Life isn't perfect" or "Life isn't Fair" are phrases used in much more severe cases than when a moderator deletes a comment about cheating and moved it to the cheating forum or some such thing. And from what I've seen the staff actually seems pretty lenient.
On a side note it's funny when people invoke freedoms when they're only ever able to apply it to themselves. In America you're are also free to make a web site and moderate it however you see fit... it's your siteafter all. If Erik warned a thousand users for no reason, and then banned 2000 more for no reason, he's free to do that lol.
And that Erik even posts in the Forum explaining obvious things such as, we try to keep a fair line, you can't please people on both sides, we're only human and try to be fair etc... that's 1000% more than you're going to get from situations in day to day life -- what you're going to see most of is "tough, deal with it, we owe you noexplanation " that is when you get any sort of interaction at all. So seriously, huge props to Erik for all the times he's just chatted about what's going on, not down talking or giving copy and paste responses... that's some great customer service.
As for myself, overall I'm very pleased with the way this site is run. I may not be as emotionally invested or even as active in it as some, but I think the average user feels the same way.
I love this site and I love order, so imo, keep the threads organised! If it inconveniences the odd user, so be it. And I agree with Orangehonda above, kudos to Erik for his explanations and efforts.
There are an incredible number of resources / links on this site.
If one thing bothers somebody, they should move on to the next topic.
This is a chess site. If folks are after "social justice" there are plenty of venues in other places.
polydiatonic wrote:
CPawn wrote:
polydiatonic wrote:
It seems to me that now that there's this "kids" chess.com thingy maybe the overlords here could mellow out on the moderation activities since the rational has been about how we have to keep it "clean" for the kids who come here.
Its more than just about the kids. There are members here that dont appreciate seeing posts that are in bad taste, disrespectful to others, or are just plain rude. It shouldnt be hard to have enough self control to come here, play chess, have a good time, and be respectful to others.
If you feel the uncontrollable need to act immature go to yahoo chess.
I am sick and tired of "yahoos" like you telling me and others, essentially: "america, love it leave it". You can stuff it buddy. We are at liberty to discuss and opine at our will and you can suck it up and deal with it.
My issue is with the "heavy handedness" and arbitrary nature of the censorhip of some of the staff.
You are correct. You are at liberty to discuss whatever you want. Just as i am at liberty to express my views on what you discuss, and just as the site is a liberty to enforce the TOS that you agreed to.
And again...if you didnt agree with the TOS for this site why did you sign up?
Also...what is it you would like to discuss on here that you cant? Im curious
LOL, girl you are too much. A mutual friend says hi. I could give you their email but you know why I can't. My love is given to all freely, until it is returned with hate that is. And I did do a LOL at the end, it was just a joke. But I guess it's OK for bondiggity to get a crack in but not for me, eh? Even though costelus got one in on me every chance he could.
Very strange post.
My hypocrisy alarm didn't go off after reading bongditty's post.