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ajttja

First things first, i am not trying to get a title by asking you how. Ok now, i have seen people with titles with a rating like 1700,dont you have to be a really high rating to get one? How do you get a rating?

waffllemaster

Internet ratings are for fun.  No ones gets a title based on their internet performance.

You get national titles (like national master, or NM) by achieving a high rating.  In the United States that rating is 2200.  If I wanted it I would go to USCF (united states chess federation) rated events which take place in person.

FM, IM, and GM are international titles (FIDE master, International Master and Grandmaster).  They're awarded by the international body of chess, FIDE and are earned in FIDE rated tournaments which are over the board tournaments (OTB) meaning face to face, in real life games :)

You get the FM title by having a rating of 2300 FIDE or higher.

The IM and GM titles are a bit different.  You have to achieve IM and GM norms (preform at IM or GM level against IM and GM players).  After I think it's 3 norms, you get the title.

When these players register on chess.com, they can give the staff proof of their title, and then we see it by their username.  Many of them have played few or no games, so their chess.com ratings are 1200 or 1700 as you said.  But as I said in the beginning, internet ratings are for fun, and don't affect titles one way or another.

Doggy_Style

You'll need to be more specific, if you want a concise answer.

 

You say:

 

"Ok now, i have seen people with titles with a rating like 1700,dont you have to be a really high rating to get one?"

 

What title?

 

Awarded by which rating body?

ajttja

the guy i saw was a FM (i saw him in an OTB tourni) with an OTB rating(FIDE rating) of 1700.

waffllemaster

What was his name?  We could look it up.

Titles are awarded for life, so you could get it and then get worse... but it's hard to imagine it falling that low.  Especially considering rating floors, but I don't know how FIDE rating floors work, or if they exist at all actually heh.

Doggy_Style
ajttja wrote:

the guy i saw was a FM (i saw him in an OTB tourni) with an OTB rating(FIDE rating) of 1700.

 

It might be that he gained his FM title (FIDE rating 2300+), then suffered an absence (maybe an illness, like say, a stroke) and when he came back to chess, he wasn't as good. He would sport a mediocre rating but the title is for life, regardless of playing strength.

Doggy_Style
waffllemaster wrote:

What was his name?  We could look it up.

Titles are awarded for life, so you could get it and then get worse... but it's hard to imagine it falling that low.  Especially considering rating floors, but I don't know how FIDE rating floors work, or if they exist at all actually heh.

No rating floors in FIDE.

waffllemaster

Yes, maybe had a stroke... FM and 1700 is a very big difference.

waffllemaster
Doggy_Style wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

What was his name?  We could look it up.

Titles are awarded for life, so you could get it and then get worse... but it's hard to imagine it falling that low.  Especially considering rating floors, but I don't know how FIDE rating floors work, or if they exist at all actually heh.

No rating floors in FIDE.

Oh, good to know, thanks.

Doggy_Style

It might be that his name is (say) Fernando Marcellino Sanchez, that is misread in the crosstable as FM Sanchez. Laughing

gumersindo

Most likely it was a kid who won the FM title event at a youth event

cabadenwurt

Thanks to the OP for starting this interesting topic.

There is one thing about this question of titles that is a bit confusing. If one looks at NM Gumersindo's post above one can see that the " NM " letters are highlighted in red to show that he does indeed have a title. However there are some people here who add letters to their name just for fun ( I guess ). To use a fictitious example: " GMJohnDoe ". The person in my example just added the letters to his name and these letter would of course not be highlighted in red but this situation could create some confusion.

ajttja
gumersindo wrote:

Most likely it was a kid who won the FM title event at a youth event

he was a kid, around 15 i think

Doggy_Style

Extracted from the FIDE handbook, some of the dodgier ways of getting a minor FIDE title:

 

jesterville

Great explanation waffllemaster. GM jesterville...hmmm...could someone please direct me to the nearest "Total Recall" facility?