Tobey Maguire chess training

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I see many posts on this forum about Bobby Fischer, how good he was, and all that stuff. I'm guessing that Fischer's rise in popularity in recent times can be attributed to none other than Tobey Maguire for playing him in the chess film "Pawn Gambit". I don't recommend the movie as it seems boring, but while yawning through the preview I had an interesting thought. 

How long did Tobey Maguire have to train in order to portray Bobby Fischer? Most will see this deep intellectual thought as ridiculous and say "Oh he's an actor, he's just acting". But let me elaborate, when the guy who did Batman did Batman, he had to train his muscles to look like Batman (He probably did like 100 pushups a day or something). So it would only make sense that Tobey Maguire would train his chess in order play like Bob Fischer. 

Please share your thoughts. 

Avatar of urk
I definitely saw Tobey capturing Fischer's mannerisms, in the authoritative way he would plunk pieces down on the board, and also this odd, shuffling way of walking that Fischer had. Tobey did a good job there.
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No, Maguire has nothing to do with Bobby Fischer's popularity. Fischer has been an immensely popular topic of conversation on various internet chess sites for as long as I've been a chess player, which is well over 15 years. He was an amazing chess player and an interestingly eccentric personality, so chess players will remember him for quite some time. If anything, that movie got made because Fischer is still an interesting subject of conversation, not the other way around.

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Fromper wrote:

No, Maguire has nothing to do with Bobby Fischer's popularity. Fischer has been an immensely popular topic of conversation on various internet chess sites for as long as I've been a chess player, which is well over 15 years. He was an amazing chess player and an interestingly eccentric personality, so chess players will remember him for quite some time. If anything, that movie got made because Fischer is still an interesting subject of conversation, not the other way around.

Agree to disagree 

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Fromper is right. While the movie may have created an uptick in popularity among casual players and the general public (that is certainly debatable), Fischer hasn't really gained much new popularity in regular chess circles due to the movie. The movie itself caused some additional discourse, of course.

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So after immersing himself in the world of chess and playing a genius at the sport, just how much has Maguire’s game improved?
“I would estimate zero percent,” the actor told us. “Actually what I learned was discouraging. As I was meeting with chess experts, talking about the game and the memorization and theory and the study, I realized, ‘Oh, this would take me playing a couple of hours a day for a couple of years to really make any significant progress.’” He laughed, “That just seemed like a little too much.”

https://www.google.com/amp/www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/tobey-maguire-pawn-sacrifice/amp
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Very interesting Urk. Very interesting. I may have been wrong. But it seemed only natural for Tobey Maguire to become as good as Fischer before playing him in the film "Pawn Gambit".

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Even you could probably beat Tobey in a game of chess, Vlad.
You think?
Avatar of VladimirHerceg91

Tobey as himself, or when he's portraying Bobby Fischer? 

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Every chess player I ever played from now to about 18 years ago knew the name Bobby Fischer dude.  The movie didn't change squat.  He was always popular.

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Daybreak57 wrote:

Every chess player I ever played from now to about 18 years ago knew the name Bobby Fischer dude.  The movie didn't change squat.  He was always popular.

Interesting point of view Daybreak57, arguable, but interesting nonetheless. 

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I knew who Fischer was as a kid growing up in the 90s.

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VladimirHerceg91 wrote:
Daybreak57 wrote:

Every chess player I ever played from now to about 18 years ago knew the name Bobby Fischer dude.  The movie didn't change squat.  He was always popular.

Interesting point of view Daybreak57, arguable, but interesting nonetheless. 

You have my utmost attention.  Please, continue with your argument to disprove Bobby Fischer's popularity.

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KholmovDM wrote:

I knew who Fischer was as a kid growing up in the 90s.

I don't quite understand, the film only came out recently. It would be really difficult to know who Fischer was before then. I'm sure serious chess players would have heard about him, as he was a former world champion, so they possibly studied some of his games. However, us common folk had to rely on Tobey Maguire to unveil Fischer to the public eye. I'm not accusing you of dishonesty, I'm actually quite impressed. 

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JonWB81 wrote:
VladimirHerceg91 wrote:
Daybreak57 wrote:

Every chess player I ever played from now to about 18 years ago knew the name Bobby Fischer dude.  The movie didn't change squat.  He was always popular.

Interesting point of view Daybreak57, arguable, but interesting nonetheless. 

You have my utmost attention.  Please, continue with your argument to disprove Bobby Fischer's popularity.

I would love to spearhead this argument, but I will let other users share their thoughts (or agreements). 

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ironbasicb wrote:
JonWB81 wrote:
VladimirHerceg91 wrote:
Daybreak57 wrote:

Every chess player I ever played from now to about 18 years ago knew the name Bobby Fischer dude.  The movie didn't change squat.  He was always popular.

Interesting point of view Daybreak57, arguable, but interesting nonetheless. 

You have my utmost attention.  Please, continue with your argument to disprove Bobby Fischer's popularity.

he was not popular among the top players of the time, Larsen for instance was ridiculous, the patzer won the match 6-0

Please don't share misinformation, it was actually Bobby Fischer who won that match 6-0. 

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I am not sure what a "patzer" is, but if it's a racist term for Danes, please keep your prejudices to yourself. Thank you. 

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VladimirHerceg91 написал:
KholmovDM wrote:

I knew who Fischer was as a kid growing up in the 90s.

I don't quite understand, the film only came out recently. It would be really difficult to know who Fischer was before then. I'm sure serious chess players would have heard about him, as he was a former world champion, so they possibly studied some of his games. However, us common folk had to rely on Tobey Maguire to unveil Fischer to the public eye. I'm not accusing you of dishonesty, I'm actually quite impressed. 

My parents remember Fischer's match with Spassky in 1972 - my dad was twelve at the time.  I also remember watching "Searching For Bobby Fischer" when I was little. So that's how I knew.

Fischer was well known before that, however, of course. The 1972 Championship match helped revive chess in the United States.

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In the late 80's most people here knew who the two K's were, even if not interested in chess. I wasn't interested either by that time, but there were two more names I was aware of: Capablanca and Fischer.