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NimzoRoy
Jun 9, 2011
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SOURCE: http://db.chessmetrics.com
"NOTE: For each player, the "peak" five-year span of their career is identified. All possible five-year spans are considered (always starting in January) in which the player had an active rating for 60 consecutive months. The five-year span with the highest average rating (across all 60 months) is considered to be the player's "peak" five year range."
The complete lists includes 100 players and is well worth checking out! Of course Chessmetrics uses a "proprietary" rating method here which is open to debate, but nonetheless comes up wit many surprising and unexpected results - for instance, the much-maligned and usually ignored Spassky is #10 on the Peak 20 year list (1960-1979)!
Peak Average Ratings: 5 year peak range
#1 Garry Kasparov 2875 1989-Jan through 1993-Dec
#2 Emanuel Lasker 2854 1894-Jan through 1898-Dec
#3 José Capablanca 2843 1919-Jan through 1923-Dec
#4 Mikhail Botvinnik 2843 1945-Jan through 1949-Dec
#5 Bobby Fischer 2841 1969-Jan through 1973-Dec
#6 Anatoly Karpov 2829 1986-Jan through 1990-Dec
#7 Alexander Alekhine 2827 1929-Jan through 1933-Dec
#8 Viswanathan Anand 2818 1997-Jan through 2001-Dec
#9 Vladimir Kramnik 2812 1998-Jan through 2002-Dec
#10 Harry Pillsbury 2799 1899-Jan through 1903-Dec
Peak Average Ratings: 10 year peak range
| Player Name | Average Rating | 10 year peak range | |
| #1 | Garry Kasparov | 2863 | 1986-Jan through 1995-Dec |
| #2 | Emanuel Lasker | 2847 | 1893-Jan through 1902-Dec |
| #3 | Anatoly Karpov | 2821 | 1985-Jan through 1994-Dec |
| #4 | José Capablanca | 2813 | 1919-Jan through 1928-Dec |
| #5 | Bobby Fischer | 2810 | 1964-Jan through 1973-Dec |
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| #6 | Mikhail Botvinnik | 2810 | 1940-Jan through 1949-Dec |
| #7 | Viswanathan Anand | 2805 | 1995-Jan through 2004-Dec |
| #8 | Alexander Alekhine | 2804 | 1926-Jan through 1935-Dec |
| #9 | Vladimir Kramnik | 2798 | 1994-Jan through 2003-Dec |
| #10 | Vassily Ivanchuk | 2781 | 1989-Jan through 1998-Dec |
| Player Name | Average Rating | 20 year peak range | |
| #1 | Garry Kasparov | 2856 | 1984-Jan through 2003-Dec |
| #2 | Anatoly Karpov | 2818 | 1977-Jan through 1996-Dec |
| #3 | Emanuel Lasker | 2809 | 1892-Jan through 1911-Dec |
| #4 | Alexander Alekhine | 2781 | 1922-Jan through 1941-Dec |
| #5 | Viktor Korchnoi | 2766 | 1962-Jan through 1981-Dec |
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| #6 | Vassily Smyslov | 2759 | 1950-Jan through 1969-Dec |
| #7 | Paul Keres | 2755 | 1944-Jan through 1963-Dec |
| #8 | Tigran Petrosian | 2754 | 1954-Jan through 1973-Dec |
| #9 | Mikhail Botvinnik | 2748 | 1952-Jan through 1971-Dec |
| #10 | Boris Spassky | 2747 | 1960-Jan through 1979-Dec |
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You know, I often wonder if all world champions are considered chess geniuses, or are some considered a chess genius, while others are considered not? I don't know hardly a thing about Pillsbury except he was considered a "chess genius".
They're all considered chess geniuses by me. As for Pillsbury, I believe he was pretty one-dimensional away from the board, ie, his entire life revolved around chess and he had no other career or occupation.
NimzoRoy wrote:
They're all considered chess geniuses by me. As for Pillsbury, I believe he was pretty one-dimensional away from the board, ie, his entire life revolved around chess and he had no other career or occupation.
Steinitz life revolved around chess---so did Capablanca's. Yeah, I know Capa was a diplomat. His job was to travel around the world playing chess and putting Cuba on the face of the map. Alekhine's life revolved around chess as did Tal's. Petrosian did nothing but chess, Spassky did nothing but chess. Karpov is pretty much a one trick pony. Now Fischer was an all around genius. He ran a counselling service whereby he would bring warring parties together and smooth out the wrinkles. He was in the forefront of the Ecumenical movement to bring peace and stability to all religious faiths. He was the president of the "Love Thy Mother" foundation. And last but not least---he was a significant mover in the hands across the ocean program ---giving assistance to our Russian comrades.
Actually, I think you are a little off when you say Pillsbury was one dimensional.
The guy could bake a mean biscuit---Pally!
raul72: Tal, Petrosian and Spassky were all "journalists" albeit strictly chess journalists. Petrosian was editor of 64 magazine until Fischer wiped him off the Board in the Candidates Final Match, 1971. I assume most if not all of what you wrote was tongue-in-cheek BTW.
trysts: Who was Alekhine a spy for? That's news to me (and probably everyone else). Like Bogolyubov and Keres, he was considered a Nazi collaborator because he played in Nazi sponsored tnmts is this what you're referring to?
trysts wrote:
I thought Alekhine was a spy?
Yep! His code name was Alekhine 007.
Thats a joke son! I've told Nazgulls mom that I would let him know when I'm joking. Otherwise he would write angry cards and letters! Momma Nazgull you have my sympathy.
NimzoRoy wrote:
raul72: Tal, Petrosian and Spassky were all "journalists" albeit strictly chess journalists. Petrosian was editor of 64 magazine until Fischer wiped him off the Board in the Candidates Final Match, 1971. I assume most if not all of what you wrote was tongue-in-cheek BTW.
trysts: Who was Alekhine a spy for? That's news to me (and probably everyone else). Like Bogolyubov and Keres, he was considered a Nazi collaborator because he played in Nazi sponsored tnmts is this what you're referring to?
Nimzo---I said Petrosian, Tal and Spassky's life revolved around chess and you say no they were chess journalist as well!!?? Are you for real? Throw away that bottle of stupid pills before you really say something clever.
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NimzoRoy wrote:
trysts: Who was Alekhine a spy for? That's news to me (and probably everyone else). Like Bogolyubov and Keres, he was considered a Nazi collaborator because he played in Nazi sponsored tnmts is this what you're referring to?
I thought I read something about him collaborating with the Nazis and the Russians? Perhaps Alekhine and I were drunk
LordNazgul wrote:
raul72 wrote:
NimzoRoy wrote:
They're all considered chess geniuses by me. As for Pillsbury, I believe he was pretty one-dimensional away from the board, ie, his entire life revolved around chess and he had no other career or occupation.
Steinitz life revolved around chess---so did Capablanca's. Yeah, I know Capa was a diplomat. His job was to travel around the world playing chess and putting Cuba on the face of the map. Alekhine's life revolved around chess as did Tal's. Petrosian did nothing but chess, Spassky did nothing but chess. Karpov is pretty much a one trick pony. Now Fischer was an all around genius.
Spassky and Tal cared about nothing but chess ? Fischer was an all-round genious ? You are an all-round idiot.
Hey Lord nazgull. let me try to explain life to you. Spassky and Tal's life revolved around chess. Spassky is still travelling around playing chess---and if Tal was alive, thats what he would be doing as well. Do you understand that cement head?
I forgot this is the internet and I should have said OK, now I am joking (about Fischer). Tell me Lord Nazgull---how long has it been since you have been unable to tell the difference between a joke and reality?
LordNazgul wrote:
He didn't collaborate with the Soviets I don't think. If he did, his brother wouldn't have been killed probably. He collaborated with the Nazis, briefly and unenthusiastically.
Nazgull---You dont know Jack Squat about Alekhine and the Nazis or about Alekhine's brother. Man, you are a riot of misinformation!
LordNazgul wrote:
raul72 wrote:
LordNazgul wrote:
He didn't collaborate with the Soviets I don't think. If he did, his brother wouldn't have been killed probably. He collaborated with the Nazis, briefly and unenthusiastically.
Nazgull---You dont know Jack Squat about Alekhine and the Nazis or about Alekhine's brother. Man, you are a riot of misinformation!
For the love of God, shut up. You really should consider yourself fortunate that you are living in the US and you can troll from there safely.
Tell me Lord nazgully---where do you live? Where the hell is Mordor---is that something like purgatory? Obviously you can safely troll there to you hearts content.
I'm 7'6, 575 lbs of muscle...but I never stand so high as when I stoop to help a child.
What a guy!
LordNazgul wrote:
raul72 wrote:
LordNazgul wrote:
raul72 wrote:
LordNazgul wrote:
He didn't collaborate with the Soviets I don't think. If he did, his brother wouldn't have been killed probably. He collaborated with the Nazis, briefly and unenthusiastically.
Nazgull---You dont know Jack Squat about Alekhine and the Nazis or about Alekhine's brother. Man, you are a riot of misinformation!
For the love of God, shut up. You really should consider yourself fortunate that you are living in the US and you can troll from there safely.
Yell me Lord nazgully---where do you live? Where the hell is Mordor---is that something like purgatory? Obviously you can safely troll there to you hearts content.
Trust me that you wouldn't want to meet me in real life.
Will someone tell this guy---THIS IS THE INTERNET! We're all phd's, We all look like Brad Pitt and we could all kick Hulk Hogans ass. Wake up and smell the roses---you're not scaring anyone.
where did you get these numbers? i was under the impression that alekhine had been "estimated" at 2690 years ago. of course, i think that's low but there was no ELO system when he was playing and so a WHOLE lot of homework would have to be done in order to guesstimate this stuff. :) cool list though.
Skwerly: Go to the link I provided there should be an explanation of how chessmetric ratings work they are not = to USCF or FIDE ratings
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