Traps That Work Under 1000 rating

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Your Opinions on traps that work best under 1000 rating are needed to make the forum worth it!

Personally My favorite is The Englund gambit, it has a possibility of mating in 8 moves                    It goes Like this..............


 

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Sorry,

This is how it goes

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bobby_max wrote:

Only a moron accepts this gambit, and it's known to be unsound. Sooner or later you'll run into players who are ready for it and they'll (hopefully) crush you.

I don't think so cause it has many variation

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A trap that works well under 1000 is the Fried Liver attack. The higher you go though the more likely you are to run into the Fritz, Traxler and the standard GM line that people learn after running into the Fried Liver attack.

PS. I have done that 8 move trap with the Englund gambit before, it was fun, but beware that the best move for white involves them seemingly falling for the trap at first and then counter attacking you.

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Lord_Phan wrote:

A trap that works well under 1000 is the Fried Liver attack. The higher you go though the more likely you are to run into the Fritz, Traxler and the standard GM line that people learn after running into the Fried Liver attack.

PS. I have done that 8 move trap with the Englund gambit before, it was fun, but beware that the best move for white involves them seemingly falling for the trap at first and then counter attacking you.

Thanks

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GabeMiami10 wrote:

white is almost +1 here on the 2nd moce

But actually most people are not prepared For this opening.

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My opinion on traps?

Traps are a waste of time.

If the trap works, you learn NOTHING from winning that game. You already knew the trap. Your opponent, however, DOES learn something from losing that game. So you have cleverly helped your opponent to improve his game, while YOU do not. Nice going.

The only profit you might make by playing for traps is to grab a few cheap rating points... which you will lose again almost immediately since your increased rating does NOT correspond to any increase in your playing strength. You gained the points with a cheap trap, not with better play or improved understanding of chess... so of course you will lose the points back again as soon as your next trap fails.

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blueemu wrote:

My opinion on traps?

Traps are a waste of time.

If the trap works, you learn NOTHING from winning that game. You already knew the trap. Your opponent, however, DOES learn something from losing that game. So you have cleverly helped your opponent to improve his game, while YOU do not. Nice going.

The only profit you might make by playing for traps is to grab a few cheap rating points... which you will lose again almost immediately since your increased rating does NOT correspond to any increase in your playing strength. You gained the points with a cheap trap, not with better play or improved understanding of chess... so of course you will lose the points back again as soon as your next trap fails.

I would disagree on this, learning traps help learn situations in chess you can use later on. Learning the Traxler for example you learn about deflections and setting up one attack after another. Learning Legal's mate you learn how to sacrifice a strong piece to get a win with your other pieces. You can learn how to smother mate, set up the king for an attack by another piece etc.

You can also see similar situations in your games and recognize you could do a similar or the same tactic to win.

So I recommend learning the traps. You'll remember them after you get some wins, you'll gain confidence and if you're young you can run to your mother and tell her how you got a perfect game doing the Fried Liver when your opponent chose the wrong square to go to.

Here is an example of what I am talking about.

I recognised after move 10 that the board looked very similar to how Legal's mate is set up. I took almost a minute to calculate that it was the same and would work the same and that if he took my knight I'd take his bishop without repercussions and I went for it. If it worked I got mate in 2 if it didn't I got a bishop for a knight.

If I hadn't already previously done Legal's mate a few times would I have seen that. I doubt it.

So I recommend especially to the newer players to learn the traps. At the very least you can learn how to avoid them also.

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Cirrin wrote:

Yeah, nice trap

but you'll never reach 1200+ if you keep playing these lol

I hate to say this but traps coming from unsound openings are for low-rated players

The chance of a 1500 falling for it is quite low

Thats what I am saying Under 1000 rating not ABOVE it

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You stole it from Levy Rozman

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Lord_Phan wrote:
blueemu wrote:

My opinion on traps?

Traps are a waste of time.

If the trap works, you learn NOTHING from winning that game. You already knew the trap. Your opponent, however, DOES learn something from losing that game. So you have cleverly helped your opponent to improve his game, while YOU do not. Nice going.

The only profit you might make by playing for traps is to grab a few cheap rating points... which you will lose again almost immediately since your increased rating does NOT correspond to any increase in your playing strength. You gained the points with a cheap trap, not with better play or improved understanding of chess... so of course you will lose the points back again as soon as your next trap fails.

I would disagree on this, learning traps help learn situations in chess you can use later on. Learning the Traxler for example you learn about deflections and setting up one attack after another. Learning Legal's mate you learn how to sacrifice a strong piece to get a win with your other pieces. You can learn how to smother mate, set up the king for an attack by another piece etc.

You can also see similar situations in your games and recognize you could do a similar or the same tactic to win.

So I recommend learning the traps. You'll remember them after you get some wins, you'll gain confidence and if you're young you can run to your mother and tell her how you got a perfect game doing the Fried Liver when your opponent chose the wrong square to go to.

Here is an example of what I am talking about.

I recognised after move 10 that the board looked very similar to how Legal's mate is set up. I took almost a minute to calculate that it was the same and would work the same and that if he took my knight I'd take his bishop without repercussions and I went for it. If it worked I got mate in 2 if it didn't I got a bishop for a knight.

If I hadn't already previously done Legal's mate a few times would I have seen that. I doubt it.

So I recommend especially to the newer players to learn the traps. At the very least you can learn how to avoid them also.

Nice one

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Unugu wrote:

You stole it from Levy Rozman

this IS a forum

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Cirrin wrote:

playing unsound openings hoping your opponent to fall for a trap is a terrible way to play chess. You'll come across many opponents who don't fall for the trap and get punish your bad opening

Chill IF i mean under 1000 its UNDER thousand after we got high level we play differently, Be Calm

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Cirrin wrote:

Even at your level, you'd be better off playing solid chess. You'd probably be 1600+ already if you didn't play chess for silly traps

Its Not silly, Chill dont make this a fight

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What is the point of asking what works under 1000? Even if the trap doesn't work a 1000 rated players is liable to hang their knight on the very next move after refuting the trap. Every move is a trap when the opponent has a 50% chance to blunder in response. Nothing against 1000 rated players as I'm sure all my blunders look just as obvious to somebody higher rated than me. The point? Why bother with traps? Just play good moves.

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Rapid_Chess_Only wrote:

What is the point of asking what works under 1000? Even if the trap doesn't work a 1000 rated players is liable to hang their knight on the very next move after refuting the trap. Every move is a trap when the opponent has a 50% chance to blunder in response. Nothing against 1000 rated players as I'm sure all my blunders look just as obvious to somebody higher rated than me. The point? Why bother with traps? Just play good moves.

playing good moves is nice ,but i assure the feeling when the trap works is sooooo good

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Cirrin wrote:
SGG_Shreesha wrote:
Rapid_Chess_Only wrote:

What is the point of asking what works under 1000? Even if the trap doesn't work a 1000 rated players is liable to hang their knight on the very next move after refuting the trap. Every move is a trap when the opponent has a 50% chance to blunder in response. Nothing against 1000 rated players as I'm sure all my blunders look just as obvious to somebody higher rated than me. The point? Why bother with traps? Just play good moves.

playing good moves is nice ,but i assure the feeling when the trap works is sooooo good

playing bad moves because you hope your opponent will blunder? Why? What do you learn from this? It doesn't help you learn how to get better at chess

Sorry, but if you wanna stay 800 elo forever, keep on playing your trashy openings and no solid chess

See man you maybe trying to play to get higher elo, but I am Playing for fun not competitive, and its fun playing traps for me .

its the persons wish what he plays plus this forum was made so I could learn some traps to play them.

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Cirrin wrote:
SGG_Shreesha wrote:
Rapid_Chess_Only wrote:

What is the point of asking what works under 1000? Even if the trap doesn't work a 1000 rated players is liable to hang their knight on the very next move after refuting the trap. Every move is a trap when the opponent has a 50% chance to blunder in response. Nothing against 1000 rated players as I'm sure all my blunders look just as obvious to somebody higher rated than me. The point? Why bother with traps? Just play good moves.

playing good moves is nice ,but i assure the feeling when the trap works is sooooo good

playing bad moves because you hope your opponent will blunder? Why? What do you learn from this? It doesn't help you learn how to get better at chess

Sorry, but if you wanna stay 800 elo forever, keep on playing your trashy openings and no solid chess

Also traps play good moves, not blunder for no reason

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SGG_Shreesha wrote:
Rapid_Chess_Only wrote:

What is the point of asking what works under 1000? Even if the trap doesn't work a 1000 rated players is liable to hang their knight on the very next move after refuting the trap. Every move is a trap when the opponent has a 50% chance to blunder in response. Nothing against 1000 rated players as I'm sure all my blunders look just as obvious to somebody higher rated than me. The point? Why bother with traps? Just play good moves.

playing good moves is nice ,but i assure the feeling when the trap works is sooooo good

Sounds like the reasoning of a drug addict to me. No offense but you're not doing anything of your own merit so what is the cause of feeling "sooooo good"? It's like sucker punching your opponent before the bell rings and feeling good because the ref somehow didn't catch you. Question: did you start playing chess because it became popular and your friends are playing it or did you start playing chess because the game genuinely captures your imagination? I can kind of understand where you're coming from if you're just riding the wave but it really would make no sense to me if you actually came to enjoy the game independently.

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yo I enjoy traps if you don't just don't message