Heh, even without upvotes you see that sometimes.
Like a beginner will ask for help with a game, and a titled player says "In the first 10 moves you lost your queen and you moved your king to the center of the board, that's bad to do"
And the beginner responds with "omg, you're so great at chess, thank you so much for your amazing insight"
But everyone said the same thing, so obviously they're responding to the person's title, not the post.
Wow, a new toy.
Downvoted! That is not supposed to be a toy!
Upvoted you! 
Wow, a new toy.
Downvoted! That is not supposed to be a toy!
Upvoted you!
Oh no, I can't downvote myself to make it even!
I know it may come across as whiny. One moment I'm lamenting there are so many rubbish posts, the next I'm complaining that a self-policing measure exists.
An ability to sort by relevance would be nice. An ability to hide heavily downvoted topics and posts would be nice.
That's a leap of assumption. Up-vote/down-votes have little connection to quality, value, importance or relevance.
How long will it be before the kids start trying to make a game out of getting the most up or down votes?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/lets-make-it-the-most-upvoted-post-on-chess-com
I always find this conversation interesting, since in my opinion the karma system at Reddit is one of the best things on the internet. There's about half a billion members there, and the groups manage to do a good job of policing themselves. The incentivizing, though, keeps the *users* policing themselves. Imagine the chaos over there if these systems weren't in place.
It's similar, I think, to writing a few lines of code to do some really heavy lifting.
I know it may come across as whiny. One moment I'm lamenting there are so many rubbish posts, the next I'm complaining that a self-policing measure exists.
An ability to sort by relevance would be nice. An ability to hide heavily downvoted topics and posts would be nice.
That's a leap of assumption. Up-vote/down-votes have little connection to quality, value, importance or relevance.
I imagine this is a particularly sensitive topic for you, as you have a history of making quality contributions that, I think it's fair to say, are underappreciated by the masses.
Partly because the masses are kids. And sure, if you mostly have 12 year olds then the opposite happens... garbage will be the most upvoted. On the other hand, if you give certain members more vote power (by being long time members or helpful) then there's a gatekeeping aspect, as well as making high ranked users afraid to act of character (so to speak). It all becomes stale and artificial.
Anyway, it's a dilemma. No easy answer.
I always find this conversation interesting, since in my opinion the karma system at Reddit is one of the best things on the internet. There's about half a billion members there, and the groups manage to do a good job of policing themselves. The incentivizing, though, keeps the *users* policing themselves. Imagine the chaos over there if these systems weren't in place.
It's similar, I think, to writing a few lines of code to do some really heavy lifting.
Well, for example.
I noticed one r/chess post that got a lot of upvotes (a type of puzzle). So I came up with my own version and posted it a week later, and got a lot of upvotes for myself.
It wasn't original or especially interesting. I wasn't being myself. It was just pandering.
In general it's about entertainment. Short, snappy, funny posts get upvoted. Long, thoughtful, posts tend to be ignored. And god help you if you present an unpopular opinion, even if it's correct.
I know it may come across as whiny. One moment I'm lamenting there are so many rubbish posts, the next I'm complaining that a self-policing measure exists.
An ability to sort by relevance would be nice. An ability to hide heavily downvoted topics and posts would be nice.
That's a leap of assumption. Up-vote/down-votes have little connection to quality, value, importance or relevance.
I imagine this is a particularly sensitive topic for you, as you have a history of making quality contributions that, I think it's fair to say, are underappreciated by the masses.
On a personal level I don't care one way or another. But anyone thinking it's a forum panacea or even a positive thing, hasn't thought it through very thoroughly.
like all new toys it will be in the bin by boxing day
It says that I got there in '08. It was actually this year. It sat for a few years because I found the whole place awful. When I finally ventured in, it sucked. But this is the beauty of the karma system. I taught myself how to do a better job of communicating.
wait i cant downvote my own post ? i think my post is terrible though , please allow me to downvote it or else the new toy wont make it to chrimbo eve before i pull its wheels off cheers
wait i cant downvote my own post ? i think my post is terrible though , please allow me to downvote it or else the new toy wont make it to chrimbo eve before i pull its wheels off cheers
+++ Cheap offer+++: Two upvotes on my posts, and I give you one downvote back!
im too scrooge like though , i would but my rep here as the tightest miser would forever be ruined ,
im too scrooge like though , i would but my rep here as the tightest miser would forever be ruined ,
That's to scrooge of you, my offer has expired and I give an upvote as a penalty.
anyone thinking it's a forum panacea or even a positive thing, hasn't thought it through very thoroughly.
Isn't it the same system they have over at Reddit? It made sense, at least, to compare them. And listen, the Venn Diagram on that thing is driving me insane. I'm pretty sure that being on board with their new feature is a reasonable idea.
ok look i have a banana peel from chrimbo 2002 , will you accept that , it should be worth something on the antique roadshow by now
Wow, a new toy.
Downvoted! That is not supposed to be a toy!
(Hopefully you don`t take this serious, I'm just toying around.)