USA need some new young chess prodigies current G.M. not getting any younger!!?
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Bogopawn657
Apr 19, 2024
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I think USA would do with dome new talented chess prodigies, there current Hakura and Cauarna are approaching the 40 🚫 block, they have quite a few US G.Ms but seem to compete little outside the US appart from "Hans" who performs great one minute in a tournament but then badly in another!!?
I feel like chess is becoming more of a hobby/ pass time then something that people will try to master. I could be wrong but most of the people I know play chess but don’t study. I don’t see anyone wanting to be grandmasters or travel to play in tournaments.
No worry: they will lure some talents from the rest of the world.
Caruana is Italian, Nakamura is Japanese, So is Philippino, Aronian is Armenian, Niemann is Dutch...
America is a country built by immigrants. Don't worry, they will import some players from other parts of the world.
tygxc wrote:
No worry: they will lure some talents from the rest of the world.
Caruana is Italian, Nakamura is Japanese, So is Philippino, Aronian is Armenian, Niemann is Dutch...
Hikaru's enstranged dad was Japanese, but Hikaru lives in the US since he was 2 years old, and he can only speak a little bit of Japanese that he learned much later, in school.
Caruana was born and raised in Brooklyn. When he was in Europe, he represented Italy, but that was mostly for convenience reasons. His Italian is very weak, his Spanish is much better.
Niemann was born in San Francisco. He was an exchange student in the Netherlands for a couple of years, and that was pretty much all his contact with the country apart from the Wijk aan Zee tournament.
Apr 20, 2024
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Yes I see NO GENUINE USA AMERICAN FUTURE G.M to even remotely represent themselves as the next Bobby Fischer, as you say all they have are imported stars not 100% American players and looking g at the lust they gave it doesn't look too exciting for any future players coming through!!?
Bogopawn657 wrote:
Yes I see NO GENUINE USA AMERICAN FUTURE G.M to even remotely represent themselves as the next Bobby Fischer, as you say all they have are imported stars not 100% American players and looking g at the lust they gave it doesn't look too exciting for any future players coming through!!?
Fun fact: both parents of Bobby Fischer were immigrants. So by your standards, he wasn't "100% American player" either. Not that it makes any sense whatsoever.
Everybody comes from somewhere else unless your family tree is 100% thouroughbred Mesopotamian, but if you really want to get anal about it you could make an argument that the first humans must have come from somewhere.
Take... England, for example. The "indigenous British" had to come to the archipelago at some point, but I digress. The 'indigenous' mixed with the Romans mixed with the Celts mixed with the Angles mixed with the Saxons mixed with the Jutes mixed with the Vikings mixed with finally, the Normans. So unless you can trace your family tree back to the original inhabitants of the British Isles, then congrats, you're a descendant of an immigrant.
Does any of the above matter? Absolutely not. If you were born and raised in Britain you were born and raised in Britain, seems pretty simple to me. Same for the United States, who just happen to have a much more diverse immigrant population than essentially anywhere else in the world. They're the "Melting Pot" for a reason.