Sorry you are having a bad experience. Lots of new players here, some of whom have very strong (and very wrong)opinions about chess. I think part of the problem is the renaming of a traditional form of chess (correspondence) to something that no one has ever heard of. After you beat him, I wouldn't give a rematch...
Using conditional moves and analysis board in daily/correspondence games
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Feb 20, 2021
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baddogno wrote:
Sorry you are having a bad experience. Lots of new players here, some of whom have very strong (and very wrong)opinions about chess. I think part of the problem is the renaming of a traditional form of chess (correspondence) to something that no one has ever heard of. After you beat him, I wouldn't give a rematch...
He's actually a good player and we've been playing for a while and have had some very good games. But I mentioned conditional moves in a comment and he suddenly started complaining about how it's not fair that I used this option when he hasn't. I found myself having to try to explain how correspondence chess is different from timed or long games, but to no avail. It's all okay because we're going to meet in person to play with clocks.
Nice. We all love happy endings...
Feb 20, 2021
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If this was a random person, you would entirely be in the right.
Since this is someone you know. the rules are sort of different, and it is kind of cheating.
Not conditional moves, those speed up a game considerably and should be allowed.
If you invited him to play a correspondence game, then you should have introduced him to the rules of correspondence before playing, because changing the rules without tell him is not exactly kosher. It's not cheating by chess.com standards, but it is kind of underhanded to do that.
Feb 20, 2021
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binomine wrote:
If this was a random person, you would entirely be in the right.
Since this is someone you know. the rules are sort of different, and it is kind of cheating.
Not conditional moves, those speed up a game considerably and should be allowed.
If you invited him to play a correspondence game, then you should have introduced him to the rules of correspondence before playing, because changing the rules without tell him is not exactly kosher. It's not cheating by chess.com standards, but it is kind of underhanded to do that.
Should I also teach every person I ever play chess with about en passant too? I find your accusing me of being intentionally underhanded to be offensive. It's your responsibility to know the rules, not mine to explain them to you. Besides, I did tell him about the analysis board, as I remember. But he was complaining also that the conditional moves were unfair and as if allowing the computer to move for you. He's my buddy but, man, I was scratching a hole in my head trying to reason with him on that one.
Feb 20, 2021
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Optimissed wrote:
Perhaps report the abuse to the moderators and get them to help.
No, nothing like that at all. He's a friend of mine. But he was so stubborn in refusing to understand the rules and why these resources are allowed that I was pulling my hair out. Then there was a quasi-interrogatory section where he demanded to know how many times I used these resources that made me more than a bit peeved.
Feb 20, 2021
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Tonya_Harding wrote:
Biaised reasoning. Every player is supposed to know the default rules of a game or competition they engage.
One can't complain, once the game is started already, they did not know their opponent was going to use the means allowed for the said game.
Disagree. If one meets in the cafė to play, then one should expect that an invitation to play online should follow the same rules as the cafė. The opponent hasn't changed, so there is an expectation to play the same rules as in person.
Feb 20, 2021
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I've been trying to make my chess opponent understand that using conditional moves and trying out various combinations during a daily game is absolutely acceptable and within the rules but he insists that since he takes less time to move and doesn't use these "advantages" I am getting unfair help from the computer. Even conditional moves, which are beneficial to speed up the game especially when forced moves are the only options, is making the computer play for you, according to his reasoning.
I am not good at changing the minds of stubborn people and don't really care to even try after staring incredulously at the comments and accusations in chat for a while now. But venting here a bit helps.
The thing, too, is, even if someone believes that using the opening books, analysis board, and a mouse (rather than screaming your moves at the computer until it registers the move) is illegal, since this site and chess rules in general allow it, I shouldn't have to be made to feel guilty because I'm using resources available to me and all players.