Victories/Draws against Titled Players (excluding NMs)
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Nice game dude, what's your USCF?
Also why do you not include NM in this forum?
Jun 21, 2016
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DurTeeDan wrote:
Nice game dude, what's your USCF?
Thanks man. My current USCF rating is 2118 (although I feel that my actual playing strength in standard time controls is at least 100 points higher than my current USCF rating).
In regards to your question about why I don't include NMs in here. It is b/c not all people with NM titles having current ratings of at least 2200 (although they have reached a peak rating of 2200 at some point). For example, in one recent tourney I played in, there was this guy with a NM title who was only rated 2070 as several other people with NM titles with ratings in the low 2100s.
WilliamJohnB wrote:
DurTeeDan wrote:
Nice game dude, what's your USCF?
Thanks man. My current USCF rating is 2118 (although I feel that my actual playing strength in standard time controls is at least 100 points higher than my current USCF rating).
In regards to your question about why I don't include NMs in here. It is b/c not all people with NM titles having current ratings of at least 2200 (although they have reached a peak rating of 2200 at some point). For example, in one recent tourney I played in, there was this guy with a NM title who was only rated 2070 as several other people with NM titles with ratings in the low 2100s.
Plenty of fide titled players also no longer have the minimum required rating that they had to have to earn their title either . In fact since FIDE doesnt use " floors " as the USCF does its likely even more common with fide titled players . As for your low rated NM opponents how old were they ? Its common for senior players to go down in rating as they age but in USCF the floors keep them from falling too far below their peak ratings , which does a huge disservice to senior players imo . FIDE doesnt do this and you can check GM Bisguiers fide rating to see how far his rating has fallen and compare to his uscf .
Nah, never beaten any higher than an NM. Beat 2 NMs, a CM, and drew another NM in my most recent tournament, though.
Jun 21, 2016
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Reb wrote:
WilliamJohnB wrote:
DurTeeDan wrote:
Nice game dude, what's your USCF?
Thanks man. My current USCF rating is 2118 (although I feel that my actual playing strength in standard time controls is at least 100 points higher than my current USCF rating).
In regards to your question about why I don't include NMs in here. It is b/c not all people with NM titles having current ratings of at least 2200 (although they have reached a peak rating of 2200 at some point). For example, in one recent tourney I played in, there was this guy with a NM title who was only rated 2070 as several other people with NM titles with ratings in the low 2100s.
Plenty of fide titled players also no longer have the minimum required rating that they had to have to earn their title either . In fact since FIDE doesnt use " floors " as the USCF does its likely even more common with fide titled players . As for your low rated NM opponents how old were they ? Its common for senior players to go down in rating as they age but in USCF the floors keep them from falling too far below their peak ratings , which does a huge disservice to senior players imo . FIDE doesnt do this and you can check GM Bisguiers fide rating to see how far his rating has fallen and compare to his uscf .
Just to be clear, I did not play any of the NMs that I brought up in my statement ".....in one recent tourney I played in, there was this guy with a NM title who was only rated 2070 as several other people with NM titles with ratings in the low 2100s." I was just bringing it up as an example to back up my point that not all people with NM titles have current ratings of above 2200.
Were those low rated NMs seniors ? The FM you drew also has a FIDE rating under 2200 and he is 62 years old so why include that draw ?
https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=5002133
Jun 21, 2016
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Reb wrote:
Were those low rated NMs seniors ? The FM you drew also has a FIDE rating under 2200 and he is 62 years old so why include that draw ?
https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=5002133
First of all, those low-rated NMs were not seniors. Second, the FM I drew with has a current FIDE rating of 2230 and is only 13-14 years old as you can see here in his FIDE profile: https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2058871.
WilliamJohnB wrote:
Reb wrote:
Were those low rated NMs seniors ? The FM you drew also has a FIDE rating under 2200 and he is 62 years old so why include that draw ?
https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=5002133
First of all, those low-rated NMs were not seniors. Second, the FM I drew with has a current FIDE rating of 2230 and is only 13-14 years old as you can see here in his FIDE profile: https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2058871.
My mistake , I didnt see that there are 2 FMs with the same name . One is a junior and the other a senior . My point is still relevant though , if you exclude NMs because some of them are no longer 2200 or higher why include an FM that isnt 2300 ? His FIDE rating has fallen below the minimum required OR he never reached the necessary 2300 fide and got the title through some special kids tourney ? On FIDE I cant see his rating history nor his ratings graph , apparently you have to join now or something . His USCF rating , on the other hand , is quite healthy . 
Ma_Diagonal wrote:
This thread about games vs titled players is quickly becoming an About Reb thread - can't say I'm surprised. He doesn't include NMs because he doesn't include them, get over it, NM.
Who rattled your chain ? Are you his protector or something ? 
I agree with Reb. There are some GMs in the world currently rated well under 2400 (including Larry Kaufman, who hardly ever beats other GMs), and there are some FMs rated well under 2100. If an NM is 2199, how is that somehow worse than a 2100 FM?
Jun 21, 2016
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dpnorman wrote:
I agree with Reb. There are some GMs in the world currently rated well under 2400 (including Larry Kaufman, who hardly ever beats other GMs), and there are some FMs rated well under 2100. If an NM is 2199, how is that somehow worse than a 2100 FM?
dpnorman, I see your points. Yes, there are FMs that are rated under 2100. In addition, I would expect an NM who is rated 2199 to play better than a 2100 FM (assuming that the ratings are actual reflections of their playing strengths in standard time controls).
Jun 21, 2016
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#14
Ma_Diagonal wrote:
No, I'm just tired of seeing you act like an old man. Oh wait.
Then ignore him. I don't think the OP made this thread for you to be a dick in. Sorry OP for this off topic comment.
@OP You played a nice game and deserved the draw . I wouldnt repeat this opening though as 6 Na3 ?! isnt good for white after 6... cd4 black is better no matter how white recaptures . Both 6 a3 and 6 Be2 are fine for white .
Beat a FM rated 2300 when i was 1550 convincingly in classical
Jun 25, 2016
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Now with the advent of the internet, draws and wins against NM, CM and FM players have become pretty much the routine for me. I have also got myself one IM scalp (but not Pfren, who refused to play with me on the grounds that I blunder too much...)
IRL I met such people on some informal occasions - pretty much the same results as online, and another (FIDE 2420 rated) IM scalp (a French guy, a very nice one. We also had like five draws, but he beat me like 16 times). There were also two 2370ish rated FMs (with IM norms) who similarly lost games to me IRL.
I see no reason why I shouldn't beat this kind of players (U2400) with some regularity - of course not every game.
Such achievements become more frequent as a player becomes stronger / higher rated, it goes without saying.
At some point, that player becomes titled too. Just keep improving.
I wonder how many people here have had success against titled players (excluding NMs with USCF ratings below 2200 and including GMs, FMs, and IMs with USCF ratings above 2200). My guess is not too many.
I have had success against a FM in a recent tourney by managing to get a draw with him. Here is that game:
Feel free to post any success games you have had with titled players on this forum. Also feel free to share any comments you have on my game as well as any other stuff relevant to this forum.