We must remove the opening function during the daily games !

Hello,

I think it is absolutely necessary to remove the openings function during the daily games !

Following a post that I had read on the subject I just realized that during these games this function indicates all the possible following moves for us and the% of victory for white and black !!!

my opinion is no longer playing it is copying moves that we are told.

I who do not know the openings I am sometimes in a bad position after a few movements and too bad for me. If I used this function I would easily increase my current ranking.

for me it wouldn't really be MY parts anymore.

I imagine the tournament player : wait I verify a variant in my encyclopedia of openings !

I do not understand at all that this function can exist.

in my opinion it must be absolutely deleted !!!

what is your opinion on that ?

Thank you and hello home !

It's just daily chess. No one cares about it

I don't know if it's a good raison.

In the last 90 days from the statistics  :

508 000  daily players

1 270 000 bullet players

2 896 000 blitz players

5 980 000 rapid players

I didn't notice they did that 🤔 I use the app. Most correspondence chess players will look up openings if they take it seriously so no big deal. I play my own moves anyway but I can understand how some people think it is just copying moves if the moves are right there to choose from.

@Bruno5979:

There are a few others who feel as you do that the traditions of correspondence chess should be discarded and the same rules as live chess should be followed.

https://www.chess.com/club/circle-of-trust-otb

That is the thing. Correspondence chess is like that, it is completely different than live chess. It exists for a really long time. One person would mail their move to the other person and then the other person would make a move on their board, and then try to self analyze the game, and that means if they know of other games like that they would look at those as well.

Some games can be played for weeks or months. You can't expect someone to just don't look at the line he is playing in his daily games. 

Now the practical issue. Even if you delete the opening option on the site, there are many other free opening databases online, or books offline as well.

So, in essence, that is the deal you accept with daily chess. You should try to find some improvement even on move 20 or later (but in most cases you will go out of book sooner than that). 

In any case, daily is not a substitute for live chess. Opening database and analysis board make it a completely different form of chess.

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Thanks.

Yes I known this type of game a long time ago !

I received by post a green bristol card (postcard) with the move played by my opponent.

I would position the new position on my wooden chess board and play as if my opponent was there in front of me, not using anything. Then I wrote down my move on a Bristol board and posted it. We could make an answer hypothesis for example 17 Qxf6 if 17 ... Qxf6 18 Rxf6

It shows the percentage of wins from master games... In no way whatsoever does making a "White wins 42% of the time" move reflect the reality of outcomes for most people who use it on here.

More like "White wins 42% of the time unless the next move is a blunder in which case we have absolutely no idea what the outcome will be".

It can be a useful tool for a learner when facing a new opening and much like already mentioned above, the ability to do that is no different from a correspondence player consulting their books. To try and make daily and timed games be played in exactly the same way would be unnecessary...

The main issue is that it should come with a health warning that over reliance on the opening explorer can seriously harm your learning...

With lots of games going I find looking at the opening name reminds me of what is happening.

In the olden days Correspondence games had a 3 year limit.

Conditioned moves can be problematic as well.

the other day I see a forced mate in 5. to shorten the game, I mark all the moves in advance. But on the 3rd I see that the king can escape in f6 and that there is no mate. well I still played since I won at least one rock for my bishop which was enough for me.

The solution would be simple:
possibility of next opponent move reduced to a single first move !
and only one move of anticipation possible.

thank you for all your answers

I doubtless misunderstood indeed what were the rules of these deferred parts. for me it was long (classic) games but with permanent interruptions to the game

So I guess from everything that has been said that we can also put the position of a game on a wooden chessboard and calculate moves by moving the pieces

not everyone plays these games the same I think so it skews the rankings.

Is there a rule of thumb for these parts somewhere?

For daily, you can't use an engine, tablebases, or get direct help from a other player. Use of books, videos, game databases, magazines, a separate board to use to move the pieces and analyze, etc are explicitly allowed.

https://support.chess.com/article/648-what-do-i-need-to-know-about-fair-play-on-chess-com

thank you

the answer is really extremely clear.

Thank you

I think you too could much up your rapid rating playing  games 30'.

I was 1050/1100 in November playing very often 10' games like you.

After playing only 30'  I reached recently 1400  (in reality 1392+8 from chess.com) !    

Daily chess is boring

I remember this was discussed here before.

Some says daily chess is a kind of study rather than being a competition.

I consider daily games to be long games like 2 hours or more.

Some moves I play in 1 minute when I find them obvious but more often it's 3 or 5 minutes. Once I took at least 1 / 4h !

For “Daily” games, as long as you don't use a computer/chess engine to calculate moves, or consult with another human about the game in progress, it is legal to consult passive resources such as books, articles, online databases, opening explorers, etc.  However, for “Live” (i.e., not “Daily”) games it is illegal to consult or employ ANY external aid or resource for assistance, again including human assistance, for a game in progress.

I believe that it is fair to make sure others are not cheating.