Weakest World Champ

Sort:
Avatar of BloodyJack
landwehr wrote:

spassky by far who lost to fisher!

This Spassky?



Avatar of StevenBailey13

Euwe.

Avatar of landwehr

one brilliant game does not cover the weakness of losing to Fisher

Avatar of PIRATCH

Really a nice game. Larsen was crushed! Surprised

Avatar of LoekBergman

Alexander Khalifman.

Although I object against the title 'weakest' world champ. Whoever got the title once, was not a weak player. I prefer 'least convincing'.

Avatar of landwehr

agree

Avatar of BloodyJack
landwehr wrote:

one brilliant game does not cover the weakness of losing to Fisher

Do you want me to bring up every game that Spassky won versus Fischer?

My issue with your comment was that you said Spassky was the weakest world champion 'by far'. And that losing to Fischer (who would have at have beaten anyone at that time) somehow makes him the weakest champion.

Avatar of NimzoRoy
landwehr wrote:

spassky by far who lost to fisher

Is that why his peak rating for several different time periods (1, 2, 3, 4, 5,10, 15 and 20 yrs) is higher (on some of these lists) than that of Euwe, Tal, Morphy, Steinitz... and Fischer (on the 20 yr peak performance list)?

http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/PeakList.asp?Params=199510SSSSSWS000000000000111000000000000010100

Avatar of gaereagdag

Emanuel Lasker because when he lost the title to Capablanca Lasker gave up the match before its full games came to an end.

Avatar of BloodyJack
LoekBergman wrote:

Alexander Khalifman.

Although I object against the title 'weakest' world champ. Whoever got the title once, was not a weak player. I prefer 'least convincing'.

I think we're only counting unified world champions, otherwise this would be easy.

Avatar of gaereagdag

Vera Menchik

Avatar of landwehr

agree

Avatar of NimzoRoy
linuxblue1 wrote:

Emanuel Lasker because when he lost the title to Capablanca Lasker gave up the match before its full games came to an end.

Peak Average Rating: 20 yr peak

#1     Garry Kasparov       2856       1984-Jan through 2003-Dec   
 #2     Anatoly Karpov       2818       1977-Jan through 1996-Dec   
 #3     Emanuel Lasker       2809   

   1892-Jan through 1911-Dec 

 

Peak Average Rating: 15 yr peak

 #1     Garry Kasparov       2862       1987-Jan through 2001-Dec   
 #2     Anatoly Karpov       2820       1977-Jan through 1991-Dec   
 #3     Emanuel Lasker       2816       1890-Jan through 1904-Dec   

Peak Average Rating: 10 yr peak

#1     Garry Kasparov       2863       1986-Jan through 1995-Dec   
 #2     Emanuel Lasker       2847       1893-Jan through 1902-Dec   

He's also in the TOP TEN for 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 yr peaks

www.chessmetrics.com

Avatar of landwehr

are you trying to baffle us with statistics...we have made up our minds dont confuse us with the facts

Avatar of PIRATCH

Do you know there was a Vera Menchik club. One GM suggested this club for all players who did not win a game against the (first?) Woman World Champion. This "club" grew rapidly! Laughing

Avatar of landwehr

I would qualify for membership easily

Avatar of BloodyJack
landwehr wrote:

are you trying to baffle us with statistics...we have made up our minds dont confuse us with the facts

That has to be irony... Please tell me that's irony Frown

Avatar of StevenBailey13

Spassky was underrated, he beat Petrosian in a match and even gave Fischer a real fight. All round great player

Avatar of landwehr

undoubtedly every world champion was a great player just to win that crown, and it is very misleading to rate them against one another. surely each one must be taken within the context of their times

Avatar of BloodyJack
landwehr wrote:

undoubtedly every world champion was a great player just to win that crown, and it is very misleading to rate them against one another. surely each one must be taken within the context of their times

Which is exactly what chessmetics does...