What constitutes a tactician?

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Radical_Drift

Hello!

 

I wanted to start a discussion on what we might mean when we call ourselves or other chess players tacticians. I know this has been discussed before, but, given that new people have undoubtably joined chess.com since the older discussions were made, I wanted to get the views of everyone I could on this topic. When you say you played a tactical game, how many types of games might you include in this statement? What is a "tactical" masterpiece? I will omit my own views at this time for lack of a better reason than my views are not well-formed. Perhaps that could changeLaughing 

Thanks,

chessman

mosai

A tactician is just a nice way of saying a person has no positional understanding. 

mosai

A typical example.



sammynouri
mosai wrote:

A tactician is just a nice way of saying a person has no positional understanding. 

Larry Christiansen and Garry Kasparov have no positional understanding? That's good to know.

Radical_Drift
mosai wrote:

A tactician is just a nice way of saying a person has no positional understanding. 

Well, not necessarily. For an extreme example, Garry Kasparov was often referred to as a great tactician, but he had enough positional understanding to topple Karpov. Of course, when I refer to tacticians, I don't mean to talk about players who devote themselves to one area of the game while neglecting others. My real question can be phrased as "When one refers to a tactician in chess, what skill set does said tactician have?

Radical_Drift
mosai wrote:

A typical example.

 

The Bill Gates game. Sweet.

Radical_Drift
sammynouri wrote:
mosai wrote:

A tactician is just a nice way of saying a person has no positional understanding. 

Larry Christiansen and Garry Kasparov have no positional understanding? That's good to know.

I think he was just using hyperbole to take a stab at some arrogant chess.com players who post games filled with egregious errors and pretend like they won by their great playing.

MSC157

Mosai, you have chosen the very worst example! Just saying, we are talking about tacticians.

Alec92

In the past a pure Tactician disdained positional considerations they employed hit and run tacticis usually had a very keen eye for the  combinative side of Chess like Frank Marshall and Joseph Henry Blackburne they could bloody their opponents and played aggressive Chess but had big problems when they came up against defensive players 

mosai

Nevertheless, if I didn't know that it was Carlsen I would have guessed black was <1300

AnOmalimusicofficial
Ammanian wrote:

@mosai, in the game you posted 7 ... Ne5 is not "stupidly believing in a mate when none exists" ... actually Carlsen played it on purpose.. he knew that his opponent is a beginner (in chess) and Carlsen himself called this move (after the game) a "dirty trick".

Plus Carlsen only had 30 seconds while Gates had two minutes. Carlsen couldn't take his time to play positionally and so he had to play quicker. He knew what would work on a beginner.

Ben_Dubuque

Tacticians dislike positional play as "too slow" or "not active enough" they strive for the adrenaline rush of a well executed tactical attack, even if they are unsure of the outcome their tactical abilities are at a level much higher than their rating, so a person who studies just tactics at say 1500 OTB would be able to kill anyone up to a 2100 in a Traxler as black.

Wilio9
mosai wrote:

A typical example.

 



a 12 sec blitz game does not constitute a good example.

wasted_youth
chessman1504 wrote:

When one refers to a tactician in chess, what skill set does said tactician have?

Tactics.