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What do you feel when you lose against a VERY low rated player?
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May 4, 2016
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#23
300-400 points lower rated players then you are NO WAY going to win. I lost to a 1100 rated guy- 300 lower than me. He played positionally solid! His all rating were <1300.
I never suspect anyone cheats except when I look at their games. He was not a cheater
. And I was completely a loser
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May 4, 2016
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#24
1PawnWinsGames wrote:
Nothing...a player is a player, rating is just a number...I know players in personal life who are around 1800-2000's and they start off with a 1200 acc...just because they have low rating doesnt mean their weak.
Are you saying that Carlsen's rating- 2889 is just a number?
May 4, 2016
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#25
Ziryab wrote:
I feel like breaking things, but my inner adult restrains me and I turn all civil and congratulatory. If the loss is during online play, I cuss at the computer screen, sending my dogs--even the deaf one--outside to escape my rage. Then I challenge the patzer to enough rematches that I earn back the stolen rating points.
Same here
May 4, 2016
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#26
kingofshedinjas wrote:
DrSpudnik escribió:
It means that you seriously messed up OR that someone is using an engine to help them.
Look at the game and see where you went wrong. If you played strongly and they just got you anyhow, then you did your best. Ratings aren't special magic charms that guarantee wins.
What? Ratings don't guarantee wins?
Ratings definitely guarantee wins if your opponent is 300-400 rating points below you
Not alwys,
I feel like. idk. frusturated with my self for my poor play. But no the other hand, I have pulled off upsets too... "it happens"
A strong otb player who recently joined chess.com will start at low ratings. He can beat opponents 300 points above his chess,com ratings.
Harish73 wrote:
kingofshedinjas wrote:
DrSpudnik escribió:
It means that you seriously messed up OR that someone is using an engine to help them.
Look at the game and see where you went wrong. If you played strongly and they just got you anyhow, then you did your best. Ratings aren't special magic charms that guarantee wins.
What? Ratings don't guarantee wins?
Ratings definitely guarantee wins if your opponent is 300-400 rating points below you
"Ratings definitely guarantee wins if your opponent is 300-400 rating points below you"
H'm, an ancient GM once told "to win, it's not enough to be a good player, you still have to play well".
May 4, 2016
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#33
Harish73 wrote:
300-400 points lower rated players then you are NO WAY going to win. I lost to a 1100 rated guy- 300 lower than me. He played positionally solid! His all rating were <1300.
I never suspect anyone cheats except when I look at their games. He was not a cheater. And I was completely a loser.
At your level, all the cheats are very bad at it.
May 4, 2016
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#34
If I played reasonably then it's annoying, but they deserved it so not much to do.
If I played unusually badly it's really frustrating, and I might be a little upset for a few days... or a a few weeks lol.
That's OTB. Games on the internet are fairly forgettable. I might be angry for a few minutes, but by the time the next game starts I've usually forgotten.
May 4, 2016
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#35
Harish73 wrote:
kingofshedinjas wrote:
DrSpudnik escribió:
It means that you seriously messed up OR that someone is using an engine to help them.
Look at the game and see where you went wrong. If you played strongly and they just got you anyhow, then you did your best. Ratings aren't special magic charms that guarantee wins.
What? Ratings don't guarantee wins?
Ratings definitely guarantee wins if your opponent is 300-400 rating points below you
Actually you can expect to lose about 1 (or draw 2) out of every 10 games,
300 points is ~85% and 400 is ~90%. If you score better than that then you're underrated.
You have to take your loss at playing chess.Some people find that hard, they play on while you are way ahead.Tal said I learned more from my losses than from my winnings.I play in a sort of flow.Sometimes it works and sometimes not.Anyway there is more to life than chess.
May 4, 2016
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#37
Diakonia wrote:
Harish73 wrote:
I mean, who is 300-400 points lower than you.
No idea, because i play the board, not the rating. If i lose to someone rated lower, it happens.
That just seems... dishonest with yourself. You can acknowledge your feelings without letting them control you. Wouldn't you be happy to beat a much higher rated player?
Win or lose, for me the majority of it is how well I met my own standards, but ratings count for something too.
0110001101101000 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:
Harish73 wrote:
I mean, who is 300-400 points lower than you.
No idea, because i play the board, not the rating. If i lose to someone rated lower, it happens.
That just seems... dishonest with yourself. You can acknowledge your feelings without letting them control you. Wouldn't you be happy to beat a much higher rated player?
Win or lose, for me the majority of it is how well I met my own standards, but ratings count for something too.
Its not a matter of not being honest, or hiding my feelings. Chess is a board game. Its not war, its not battle, its a game betwen 2 people. I have beaten/lost to people rated higher than me, just as i have lost/beaten people rated lower than me. I keep in mind that it is a game.
I have gone into final rounds with a chance for first on the line, and lose. Did it bother me that i didnt win? Not really. because i knew i was still going to be able to go home and relax, and enjoy the rest of the day.
2014 at the national open in vegas, i went into the final round against a guy from Ireland. I was up the exchange and a passed pawn. I offered the guy a draw. He asked why? I told him because that way we each finish with 3.5 points, he gets the board, and pieces (he had black), and we each get a gift certificate.
I really dont care about the score, rating, trophies, etc. I enjoy the game. Last night was an example of why i have more fun working with kids, than playing tournaments. A student was playing a guy rated 700 points higher. My student lost, but the guy comes over, puts his hand on my shoulder and says "You need to quit teaching these kids" That is what i want to get out of chess. You can have the rating, money, trophies, etc.
The satisfaction of a job well done, parents appreciating what i do, and people acknowledging that is what im in the game for.
I played Walter Browne a couple years ago, and lost. Did the fact that i lost to someone like that bother me? No. What made that game worth while was Walter putting his arm around me, and telling me how well i did.
deescalator wrote:
Diakonia wrote:
0110001101101000 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:
Harish73 wrote:
I mean, who is 300-400 points lower than you.
No idea, because i play the board, not the rating. If i lose to someone rated lower, it happens.
That just seems... dishonest with yourself. You can acknowledge your feelings without letting them control you. Wouldn't you be happy to beat a much higher rated player?
Win or lose, for me the majority of it is how well I met my own standards, but ratings count for something too.
Its not a matter of not being honest, or hiding my feelings. Chess is a board game. Its not war, its not battle, its a game betwen 2 people. I have beaten/lost to people rated higher than me, just as i have lost/beaten people rated lower than me. I keep in mind that it is a game.
I have gone into final rounds with a chance for first on the line, and lose. Did it bother me that i didnt win? Not really. because i knew i was still going to be able to go home and relax, and enjoy the rest of the day.
2014 at the national open in vegas, i went into the final round against a guy from Ireland. I was up the exchange and a passed pawn. I offered the guy a draw. He asked why? I told him because that way we each finish with 3.5 points, he gets the board, and pieces (he had black), and we each get a gift certificate.
I really dont care about the score, rating, trophies, etc. I enjoy the game. Last night was an example of why i have more fun working with kids, than playing tournaments. A student was playing a guy rated 700 points higher. My student lost, but the guy comes over, puts his hand on my shoulder and says "You need to quit teaching these kids" That is what i want to get out of chess. You can have the rating, money, trophies, etc.
The satisfaction of a job well done, parents appreciating what i do, and people acknowledging that is what im in the game for.
I played Walter Browne a couple years ago, and lost. Did the fact that i lost to someone like that bother me? No. What made that game worth while was Walter putting his arm around me, and telling me how well i did.
Sounds very, very nice. Only 1 to 2 percent see it that way, butwho cares aboutthe others? Nice comment!
Thank You!
May 4, 2016
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#40
Diakonia wrote:
0110001101101000 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:
Harish73 wrote:
I mean, who is 300-400 points lower than you.
No idea, because i play the board, not the rating. If i lose to someone rated lower, it happens.
That just seems... dishonest with yourself. You can acknowledge your feelings without letting them control you. Wouldn't you be happy to beat a much higher rated player?
Win or lose, for me the majority of it is how well I met my own standards, but ratings count for something too.
Its not a matter of not being honest, or hiding my feelings. Chess is a board game. Its not war, its not battle, its a game betwen 2 people. I have beaten/lost to people rated higher than me, just as i have lost/beaten people rated lower than me. I keep in mind that it is a game.
I have gone into final rounds with a chance for first on the line, and lose. Did it bother me that i didnt win? Not really. because i knew i was still going to be able to go home and relax, and enjoy the rest of the day.
2014 at the national open in vegas, i went into the final round against a guy from Ireland. I was up the exchange and a passed pawn. I offered the guy a draw. He asked why? I told him because that way we each finish with 3.5 points, he gets the board, and pieces (he had black), and we each get a gift certificate.
I really dont care about the score, rating, trophies, etc. I enjoy the game. Last night was an example of why i have more fun working with kids, than playing tournaments. A student was playing a guy rated 700 points higher. My student lost, but the guy comes over, puts his hand on my shoulder and says "You need to quit teaching these kids" That is what i want to get out of chess. You can have the rating, money, trophies, etc.
The satisfaction of a job well done, parents appreciating what i do, and people acknowledging that is what im in the game for.
I played Walter Browne a couple years ago, and lost. Did the fact that i lost to someone like that bother me? No. What made that game worth while was Walter putting his arm around me, and telling me how well i did.
I've also gone into the last round with money on the line and lost. I wasn't upset. I analyzed the game with my opponent and even stuck around and analyzed with a few other people. Like you said I can go home and still enjoy my day.
But when I fail in a big way to meet my own standards it's upsetting... I guess this has to do with expectations. Not expectations on ratings, but expectations based on I slept well and I'm feeling good... but then I can't seem to play well for some reason. Losing to a much lower rated player is just sort of the insult to injury.
I suppose if I made my expectations more flexible (or made none at all) I'd have little to no reaction like you're claiming for yourself. So maybe it's not so hard for me to believe you after all.
I feel like breaking things, but my inner adult restrains me and I turn all civil and congratulatory. If the loss is during online play, I cuss at the computer screen, sending my dogs--even the deaf one--outside to escape my rage. Then I challenge the patzer to enough rematches that I earn back the stolen rating points.