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What do you feel when you lose against a VERY low rated player?
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0110001101101000 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:
0110001101101000 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:
Harish73 wrote:
I mean, who is 300-400 points lower than you.
No idea, because i play the board, not the rating. If i lose to someone rated lower, it happens.
That just seems... dishonest with yourself. You can acknowledge your feelings without letting them control you. Wouldn't you be happy to beat a much higher rated player?
Win or lose, for me the majority of it is how well I met my own standards, but ratings count for something too.
Its not a matter of not being honest, or hiding my feelings. Chess is a board game. Its not war, its not battle, its a game betwen 2 people. I have beaten/lost to people rated higher than me, just as i have lost/beaten people rated lower than me. I keep in mind that it is a game.
I have gone into final rounds with a chance for first on the line, and lose. Did it bother me that i didnt win? Not really. because i knew i was still going to be able to go home and relax, and enjoy the rest of the day.
2014 at the national open in vegas, i went into the final round against a guy from Ireland. I was up the exchange and a passed pawn. I offered the guy a draw. He asked why? I told him because that way we each finish with 3.5 points, he gets the board, and pieces (he had black), and we each get a gift certificate.
I really dont care about the score, rating, trophies, etc. I enjoy the game. Last night was an example of why i have more fun working with kids, than playing tournaments. A student was playing a guy rated 700 points higher. My student lost, but the guy comes over, puts his hand on my shoulder and says "You need to quit teaching these kids" That is what i want to get out of chess. You can have the rating, money, trophies, etc.
The satisfaction of a job well done, parents appreciating what i do, and people acknowledging that is what im in the game for.
I played Walter Browne a couple years ago, and lost. Did the fact that i lost to someone like that bother me? No. What made that game worth while was Walter putting his arm around me, and telling me how well i did.
I've also gone into the last round with money on the line and lost. I wasn't upset. I analyzed the game with my opponent and even stuck around and analyzed with a few other people. Like you said I can go home and still enjoy my day.
But when I fail in a big way to meet my own standards it's upsetting... I guess this has to do with expectations. Not expectations on ratings, but expectations based on I slept well and I'm feeling good... but then I can't seem to play well for some reason. Losing to a much lower rated player is just sort of the insult to injury.
I suppose if I made my expectations more flexible (or made none at all) I'd have little to no reaction like you're claiming for yourself. So maybe it's not so hard for me to believe you after all.
I have learned to appreciate the game for what it is...fun. I still study, but i study what i want, when i want :-)
May 4, 2016
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#44
LMFAO!
Morphysrevenges wrote:
Honours to my thong, my bong, and my dong.
May 4, 2016
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#45
I usually give the player a trophy. In any case, as a gamesman, I know I blunder like everyone else, or get outplayed. The finest golfers in the world can shoot a big number, a number that a very large number of players can easily beat on a good day with a few putts falling. And an ordinary player can shoot a very low number on the course with a bunch of lucky bounces and some good shots that he wouldn't ordinarily hit. Even a moderately accomplished chess player can play well once they "have the idea" about where the game is going, and sometimes a very good player doesn't grok that same position and loses. You don't have to drop a piece to lose a chess game, just put something on a bad square and the next thing you know you have a position so bad that Kimodo couldn't save it.
May 5, 2016
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#46
1NaturalDisaster wrote:
Oh, I feel stupid, and my confidence decreases.
Me too.
May 5, 2016
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#47
Diakonia wrote:
0110001101101000 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:
Harish73 wrote:
I mean, who is 300-400 points lower than you.
No idea, because i play the board, not the rating. If i lose to someone rated lower, it happens.
That just seems... dishonest with yourself. You can acknowledge your feelings without letting them control you. Wouldn't you be happy to beat a much higher rated player?
Win or lose, for me the majority of it is how well I met my own standards, but ratings count for something too.
Its not a matter of not being honest, or hiding my feelings. Chess is a board game. Its not war, its not battle, its a game betwen 2 people. I have beaten/lost to people rated higher than me, just as i have lost/beaten people rated lower than me. I keep in mind that it is a game.
I have gone into final rounds with a chance for first on the line, and lose. Did it bother me that i didnt win? Not really. because i knew i was still going to be able to go home and relax, and enjoy the rest of the day.
2014 at the national open in vegas, i went into the final round against a guy from Ireland. I was up the exchange and a passed pawn. I offered the guy a draw. He asked why? I told him because that way we each finish with 3.5 points, he gets the board, and pieces (he had black), and we each get a gift certificate.
I really dont care about the score, rating, trophies, etc. I enjoy the game. Last night was an example of why i have more fun working with kids, than playing tournaments. A student was playing a guy rated 700 points higher. My student lost, but the guy comes over, puts his hand on my shoulder and says "You need to quit teaching these kids" That is what i want to get out of chess. You can have the rating, money, trophies, etc.
The satisfaction of a job well done, parents appreciating what i do, and people acknowledging that is what im in the game for.
I played Walter Browne a couple years ago, and lost. Did the fact that i lost to someone like that bother me? No. What made that game worth while was Walter putting his arm around me, and telling me how well i did.
Excellent comment DiaKoina! Appreciate your comment.
Yesterday I played this game in blitz.
My opponent had been on a winning streak against people of his own rating. I guess he felt pretty bad...
May 5, 2016
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#50
This game looks absolutely brilliant.
It's unbelievable for a player of your rating - and I'm sure that your opponent was astonished indeed.
The determination! The economy and effectiveness of development in the opening! The relentless pursuit of the attack! The lack of purposeless or time-wasting moves!
There is a mate in four with 18. Qg6+ Kh8 19. Qxh6+ Qh7 20. Qxh8+ Qg8 21. Qxg8 mate (black should have played 17...Rg8 and hoped for the best) - but of course, you can't ALWAYS play the best move...
May 5, 2016
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#51
Harish73 wrote:
Imagine how Karpov felt when he lost to 10-year old Magnus....
I'm pretty sure Magnus was 13 that game, although I guess its still probably as painful though.
May 5, 2016
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#52
Magnus was 13, rated 2484, on the rise - and Karpov had already stopped playing tournament chess (if memory serves), having seen his rating plummet to the low 2600s.
I'm sure that Karpov understood fully well WHO it was he was playing, and if anything, he felt respect, maybe even a certain pride, in seeing how chess keeps advancing and attracting the interest of young talent (genius, in this case).
Agree.
solskytz wrote:
Magnus was 13, rated 2484, on the rise - and Karpov had already stopped playing tournament chess (if memory serves), having seen his rating plummet to the low 2600s.
I'm sure that Karpov understood fully well WHO it was he was playing, and if anything, he felt respect, maybe even a certain pride, in seeing how chess keeps advancing and attracting the interest of young talent (genius, in this case).
Well Said!
I play pretty erratically, especially when playing online. I frequently lose to players rated lower than me, and I generally try not to pay attention to ratings, as you can become overconfident if you see that the other player has a low rating.
My son, in an OTB (USCF) tournament, upset a player rated 600 points higher. Of course, in that same tournament, he lost to a player rated 100 points lower!
Harish73 wrote:
[What do you feel when you lose against a VERY low rated player?] I mean, who is 300-400 points lower than you.
I don't.
Oh wait, I guess I do.
How did I feel? Honestly, I didn't care at all. Somewhat puzzled about my outrageously bad play, but that's about it. Of course if it had been a game that was important to me it might have been different. I can't know for sure having never played a chess game that was important to me.
May 5, 2016
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#57
LotsofSnuff227 wrote:
Yesterday I played this game in blitz.
My opponent had been on a winning streak against people of his own rating. I guess he felt pretty bad...
I am stunned. THIS CHEERED ME UP!!!
May 5, 2016
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#58
JSB53 wrote:
Harish73 wrote:
Imagine how Karpov felt when he lost to 10-year old Magnus....
I'm pretty sure Magnus was 13 that game, although I guess its still probably as painful though.
Yes, yes he was 13 I only know that Magnus defeated Karpov when he was U14 but don't know the exact age..
May 5, 2016
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#59
solskytz wrote:
Magnus was 13, rated 2484, on the rise - and Karpov had already stopped playing tournament chess (if memory serves), having seen his rating plummet to the low 2600s.
I'm sure that Karpov understood fully well WHO it was he was playing, and if anything, he felt respect, maybe even a certain pride, in seeing how chess keeps advancing and attracting the interest of young talent (genius, in this case).
Great! But Magnus defeated him in an OTB game! That's why Karpov felt respect. What if it was a game on Internet.
BTW you have a lot of knowledge about chess :)
May 5, 2016
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#60
solskytz wrote:
This game looks absolutely brilliant.
It's unbelievable for a player of your rating - and I'm sure that your opponent was astonished indeed.
The determination! The economy and effectiveness of development in the opening! The relentless pursuit of the attack! The lack of purposeless or time-wasting moves!
There is a mate in four with 18. Qg6+ Kh8 19. Qxh6+ Qh7 20. Qxh8+ Qg8 21. Qxg8 mate (black should have played 17...Rg8 and hoped for the best) - but of course, you can't ALWAYS play the best move...
Excellent comment!
i just beat his face the next time we play. (In chess) :P