What happens with games you lost against cheaters ?

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Pryder

Anything ?...nothing ?  I just looked back at my old games and found at least one person who beat me and has now been thrown out due to " violating fair play rules"...presumably that means he cheated ?!

This game https://www.chess.com/live/game/2820646142

amiakr8

If it's club match daily games, C.C will credit the player who was victimized by the 'fair play' violator  with wins in the match, but not in the player's game stats.  If the game was lost in a tournament, it stands.

Pryder

Ok...that answers my question...thank you happy.png  And now I know alternate dimensions exist as well 

mkilborn468

2 answers for the price of 1. Cheers =)

amiakr8

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/933804.  Board 4.  One game was in progress.  That's the red 0; lost on time.  The other was originally a loss for me; reversed to a win

ToddA10

You normally get your points back if their account was closed within a month of the game. 

toppermangolf
Pryder wrote:

Anything ?...nothing ?  I just looked back at my old games and found at least one person who beat me and has now been thrown out due to " violating fair play rules"...presumably that means he cheated ?!

This game https://www.chess.com/live/game/2820646142

You mean you have actually played someone that doesn't cheat.

 

mkilborn468

Sorry, not sure what I did to my original reply, but in case anyone else is looking for the same answer, I'll repost. 

Chess.com answers the question here:

https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/articles/1444922-fair-play-policy

They say: 

  • We do not and cannot "restore" other users' ratings to what they would be in an alternate dimension where the Fair Play abuser never existed! Don't worry - just keep playing! You'll get better for it!).

 

Pryder

It was deleted ?!

Pryder

It seems not...unless I can get to the "alternate universe" somehow happy.png

Pryder

and this ?!

 

"We do not and cannot "restore" other users' ratings to what they would be in an alternate dimension where the Fair Play abuser never existed! Don't worry - just keep playing! You'll get better for it!)."

mkilborn468

Points restored or not, In the long run I'm not sure a few points matters much. Ultimately, our rating pretty much settles in to representing what we actually are as players. Yes, you'll lose a few games to cheaters, but most people don't, and in the end losing to one doesn't cost that much - especially if you're trying to get better and not just protect a record or a rating. 

Scottrf
WateryYarn wrote:
Pryder wrote:

and this ?!

 

"We do not and cannot "restore" other users' ratings to what they would be in an alternate dimension where the Fair Play abuser never existed! Don't worry - just keep playing! You'll get better for it!)."

It is inconsistent with what actually happens.

I think the text is old, they never used to reinburse points.

krudsparov

It seems you just lose, 😠😠😠 I've completed 4 tournaments and been knocked out of 3 of them by players who were later banned for  violating fair play rules. 😭😭😭😭😭

krudsparov

Problem is, you've been knocked out and if the next round has already started by the time they've been caught, tough luck, you're out. 😠😠😠😠

krudsparov

The tournaments had specific ratings, ie 1600-1800 on the first one, been beaten by someone way over 2000 is most definately cheating.

krudsparov

Yeah sure, some cheating is worse than others but cheating is cheating.

Bobcat

the problem starts when a person gets bitter.the tuf f. stuf f.

starts with you. let me set an example.(when you are driving

in a vehicle and some jerk (stupid-river) cuts you of f. he is

jerk! so to set the record straight YOU get up-set. Well all yo-

ou are doing is prove-ing you are stup-pid Er? you see now

why another person has controll over you. Sit back ree-lax &

may-bee read some-thing interesting. Problem solved! That

person has a problem...? not YOU! Let it be ty Wizz-Dome. wink.png

Bobcat

by the way

     Chess players at any level

    don't need to be told anything

    any level

           ANY-LeVeL?

Bobcat: You ain't no Big Shot

     so there!         Shut uP

krudsparov
WateryYarn wrote:
krudsparov wrote:

Yeah sure, some cheating is worse than others but cheating is cheating.

It isn't doing you any favors to whine or moan about sandbaggers or their ilk.  What if they were brand new to chess and just happened to be stronger than their rating bracket?  I was certainly head and shoulders superior to you my first month playing.

1st of all, I'm not whining and moaning about sandbaggers or their ilk, they're only fooling themselves, the thread's about cheating which is why I commented about these sad people, I can assure you I've not lost any sleep over it.

2nd   they wasn't new, just sandbagging 

3rd and most hilarious,   "I was certainly head and shoulders superior to you my first month playing" lol you've only played 2 games on this account and you're 600 points behind my 1st months total.