What if chess was different?

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Check that forum i made for Chess 960.

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/chess-960-good-or-bad-for-chess-as-a-game

kiwi-inactive
salatoy wrote:

Sure will. 

Hawksteinman

What would happen if all the pieces (apart from the king) was a queen?

What if there was an extra row behind the pawns?

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kiwi wrote:
salatoy wrote:

Sure will. 

thx.
plz post your opinion too.
and as for the arguments im sure they will be and i want -and i almost always do-  that i give much attention to all opinions and views.

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brumtown wrote:

What would happen if all the pieces (apart from the king) was a queen?

What if there was an extra row behind the pawns?

for your first question i think it would be two results:

1) white wins
2) draw

for the sec question.

i think the game wouldnt change a lot or it would completely change.

it wouldnt be the same openings and tactics and that wold change the whole flow of the game.

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mmuurrii wrote:
Unleash_the_Queens wrote:
Mayedasun wrote:

What if god was one of us?

If he was, he would probably not post in this site.

why not?

maybe he would deal with more serious problems...LOL

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kaynight wrote:

Someone mentioned my name again?

you are very funny. why you using MY name?? LOL

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kaynight wrote:

I am usually TROLLACUS, but sometimes like a change. Have a nice day.

ok 
but the one i know for you is that you are JUST very very FUNNY:) 

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mmuurrii wrote:
salatoy wrote:
mmuurrii wrote:
Unleash_the_Queens wrote:
Mayedasun wrote:

What if god was one of us?

If he was, he would probably not post in this site.

why not?

maybe he would deal with more serious problems...LOL

god does not deal with problems

also..... "he" is not a "he"

right you never know

Hawksteinman

;)

Fingers crossed that happens

I love the knights!!

Hawksteinman

;)

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LongIslandMark wrote:
brumtown wrote:

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What if there was an extra row behind the pawns?

The Knights would be more powerful.

i think that rooks would be more powerful too

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mmuurrii wrote:
salatoy wrote:
mmuurrii wrote:
salatoy wrote:
mmuurrii wrote:
Unleash_the_Queens wrote:
Mayedasun wrote:

What if god was one of us?

If he was, he would probably not post in this site.

why not?

maybe he would deal with more serious problems...LOL

god does not deal with problems

also..... "he" is not a "he"

right you never know

what is unknowable?

nothing forget it. thats not a forum we should talk about the god

Unleash_the_Queens
slide_checkmate wrote:

I remember a guy once recommending that the rules of chess be changed so that each player made moves which took place at the same time as each other, rather than taking turns...

Of course that concept couldn't possibly work because of a few major flaws. e.g. What if you get put in check? A piece gets taken? Both players move to the same square, etc.

But it would definitely be different though haha

You are probably talking about Capablanca, who suggested (I think) the Knights/Bishops swap, so that there would be more attacking chances and it would be less easy to draw all the time and be boring.

Unleash_the_Queens

WARNING:

I don't mean to say that if we changed some of the rules it would be better, I am just saying what you think that it would change. Anyway, now I have the time to post the most extreme changes:

Change No 5:
What if pawns could only take on the square that they move, just like any other piece, and not diagonally.

Change No 6: 

Now it is getting extreme. What if chess was like that:

Actually, while it is quite extreme, it looks like the game might actually be more "attacky", if you know what I mean. Or maybe not, because it would be impossible to commit a nice attack when the opponent has two queen defenders.




Change No 7:

Now this is extreme, so watch out:

Is it safe to say that white would win 99% of the time? And that chess would generally be lame?






Change No 8:

What if you could take your own pieces? Well... that...

Change No 9:

Oh wait! One more! What if you could take no pieces AT ALL? If that rule wasn't in chess? Well, now I think it is safe to say that chess would be THE lamest game ever.

Unleash_the_Queens
salatoy wrote:
Gold_Grizzly wrote:

Change 1: No difference.

Change 2: It would be harder to trap the King in the centre, so players would delay castling.

Change 3: Castling on opposite sides would be more common, leading to sharper games.

Change 4: It would take longer to develop the pieces to good positions.

i agree the changes wouldnt change the whole game. it could be like that.
anyway i like chess how it is. maybe you should try to play a game with that changes anytime.
as i said i like chess how it is now. i dont like the variants in that game. i think that even the chess 960 is a bit fetched 

Yeah, I don't like chess 960 either.

Unleash_the_Queens
brumtown wrote:

What would happen if all the pieces (apart from the king) was a queen?

What if there was an extra row behind the pawns?

Well think of these changes as well! I think that it is nice to think stuff like that, even though if even one chess rule actually changed, I would be massively upset.

slide_checkmate
Unleash_the_Queens wrote:
slide_checkmate wrote:

I remember a guy once recommending that the rules of chess be changed so that each player made moves which took place at the same time as each other, rather than taking turns...

Of course that concept couldn't possibly work because of a few major flaws. e.g. What if you get put in check? A piece gets taken? Both players move to the same square, etc.

But it would definitely be different though haha

You are probably talking about Capablanca, who suggested (I think) the Knights/Bishops swap, so that there would be more attacking chances and it would be less easy to draw all the time and be boring.

No, Capablanca chess is something entirely different... Capablanca suggested that the board be expanded to 10 files rather than 8 and he invented two pieces which basically combined a Knight with a Rook, and a Knight with a Bishop. You can read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capablanca_chess

What I was talking about is if both players moved simultaneously rather than one after the other. But it isn't important because I don't think it could actually work

Unleash_the_Queens
salatoy wrote:
LongIslandMark wrote:
brumtown wrote:

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What if there was an extra row behind the pawns?

The Knights would be more powerful.

i think that rooks would be more powerful too

If you mean that there would be two rows of pawns, I don't think that rooks would be powerfull at all, because it would be a lot harder to open files for them. Knights would be ultra-powerful, and the general opening strategy would be to find spaces for your knights to come in. By the way, Capablanca once proposed this variant, so that chess wouldn't "die" from draws:

The thing that looks like a donkey in wheels on h1 and h8 is a chancellor, which combines the powers of a rook and a knight. The thing on c1 and c8 that looks like a donkey with ribbons is an archbishop, and it combines the powers of a knight and a bishop. Capablanca's point was that chess after some decades would die and become boring, because GrandMasters would all play so perfectly that all of their games would be draws. He was mostly right about that, since nowdays, if you check the World Championship level games, you will notice that the overwhelming majority are draws. Still, I wouldn't like to see my chess being changed!

Unleash_the_Queens
slide_checkmate wrote:
Unleash_the_Queens wrote:
slide_checkmate wrote:

I remember a guy once recommending that the rules of chess be changed so that each player made moves which took place at the same time as each other, rather than taking turns...

Of course that concept couldn't possibly work because of a few major flaws. e.g. What if you get put in check? A piece gets taken? Both players move to the same square, etc.

But it would definitely be different though haha

You are probably talking about Capablanca, who suggested (I think) the Knights/Bishops swap, so that there would be more attacking chances and it would be less easy to draw all the time and be boring.

No, Capablanca chess is something entirely different... Capablanca suggested that the board be expanded to 10 files rather than 8 and he invented two pieces which basically combined a Knight with a Rook, and a Knight with a Bishop. You can read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capablanca_chess

What I was talking about is if both players moved simultaneously rather than one after the other. But it isn't important because I don't think it could actually work

When you were posting this, I was writing my own post about it!