What is the avg. IQ of players on chess.com

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noodles2112

Common sense and questioning things are the essence of an intelligent human being.

Blind acceptance and mocking those who question things are the hallmarks of stupidity.

DiogenesDue
noodles2112 wrote:

Common sense and questioning things are the essence of an intelligent human being.

Blind acceptance and mocking those who question things are the hallmarks of stupidity.

That only applies when you are a real skeptic, not somebody who just favors bad/sketchy sources of information over good/reliable ones. There's certainly no lack of people that mock expertise and scientific study on the forums. Is this a sign of intelligence? No.

The "common sense" argument is always the same, but those who apply it usually need more of it happy.png. The cop-out "that's just common sense" is often code for "I can't back this up logically, but I believe it anyway".

noodles2112

what is a "reliable source"?

are not themselves their best reliable source?

If one decides they are not the best......then they shall rely upon others to tell them what to think and therefore what to believe.

Hence, blind acceptance.

I really do not care for we all have a certain degree of blind acceptance, but when a blind person tells me where to go......................I might just find that to be a bit dubious. happy.png

AccedeSpeed

110 Id say

noodles2112

Good Will Hunting?

paper_llama
noodles2112 wrote:

Common sense and questioning things are the essence of an intelligent human being.

Blind acceptance and mocking those who question things are the hallmarks of stupidity.

Yes, you're right about questioning things.

I think where we disagree is on the blind acceptance. There are a lot of people who enjoy questioning things, and are not offended by the idea that they might need to change their mind.

Besides, I don't think that's the biggest obstacle to people changing their minds... I think the hard part is most people don't care about anything that doesn't directly impact them (food, money, health, relationships, that sort of thing).

Anyway, if you like to question things then it makes sense you'd be proud about it, but that alone doesn't make your idea(s) more correct or less correct.

paper_llama
AccedeSpeed wrote:

110 Id say

Why an extra 10? What's the significance of an extra 10?

DiogenesDue
noodles2112 wrote:

what is a "reliable source"?

are not themselves their best reliable source?

If one decides they are not the best......then they shall rely upon others to tell them what to think and therefore what to believe.

Hence, blind acceptance.

I really do not care for we all have a certain degree of blind acceptance, but when a blind person tells me where to go......................I might just find that to be a bit dubious.

Your knowledge of 95% of the world does not come from your own observations, so, it behooves you to learn to critically assess and select reliable sources.

The same is true on a personal level, actually. You take in a lower bound of 30 million bits of information a second with your 5 senses (an HD stream in 4K is about 15-20 million bits per second, for reference). Your sight takes in an order of magnitude more info than your skin/feeling does, which in turn takes in an order of magnitude more info than your sense of hearing or smell do, which in turn take in a couple of orders of magnitude more info than your sense of taste.

But...your conscious mind only processes 40-400 bits of those 30 million per second. Now, take into account that human senses only operate in narrow bands relevant to our survival, and you can start to get an idea of how much there is that you do not know and must rely on extrapolation and external sources of information for.

Beyond raw perception, it is estimated that the subconscious processes/interprets 20 times more information than the conscious mind. So awareness is just the tip of a large iceberg.

paper_llama

Anyway, bringing up a topic 100 times a day isn't a good way to convince anyone of anything. It's disruptive, off-putting, a bit rude, etc.

Yesterday you were just going with the flow of conversation, chatting about whatever... I think that's the better way to do it.

Randocheckmater82

100 I guess

Allan0818
2
paper_llama

Oh, I said I don't like bass stuff, but I guess I really like this intro... forgot this was buried in my bookmarks

paper_llama

Yeah, exactly right, released in 1975.

noodles2112

Hey Llama - Not my idea to question things.

most desire to reside inside Plato's Cavewink.png

noodles2112

Dio - you have made it perfectly clear that you rely on others to tell you what to think/believe.

I once thought as you presently do. !!!

noodles2112

get busy living or dying.

DiogenesDue
noodles2112 wrote:

Dio - you have made it perfectly clear that you rely on others to tell you what to think/believe.

I once thought as you presently do. !!!

You conflate research and discernment about source information with being a follower. This is not the case. Followers willingly abdicate their responsibility to support their viewpoints.

I doubt you have ever thought as I presently do.

P.S. It's "Get busy living, or get busy dying"

noodles2112

I like to condense things. i don't care if that makes them appear too simplistic. for that is the reason i do it.

those who like to conflate .....complicate! happy.png

DiogenesDue
noodles2112 wrote:

I like to condense things. i don't care if that makes them appear too simplistic. for that is the reason i do it.

those who like to conflate .....complicate!

You "condensed" the meaning away. That's the problem. "Get busy living or dying" implies that neither choice makes much difference. "Get busy living, or get busy dying" implies the exact opposite.

paper_llama

The problem is you can say the same for anything.

Oh, you think the world is flat? But that's what some people believe, and believing something is bad, because that's a box, and you have to think outside of that box. blah blah blah Plato's cave.

Those words doesn't actually mean anything... yes the concept of a person changing their mind exists, but that doesn't speak to the validity of one idea over another... you're certainly not going to win any converts with lazy platitudes.