What is the Meaning of Death ?

Okay. Without input from religion your talk about the meaning of death is mere speculation without any foundation in the truth.

No consciousness after death.  If no consciousness then no pain.

can this be proven? 

Any dead person said otherwise ?

well yes.  However, not going there.  this thread is tricky enough to discuss within boundaries.   

but think of that statement.  That's the same as me or someone saying, there is consciousness after death, and there could be pain since there is.

Can that be proven?  see?  that's all i'm saying.   

Even those you tube vids of peopls saying they died and came back to life...how much can one believe of that? 

Some say they were in the pitts of hell, others say heaven.  Others say other things.   

True meaning of death can be understood once the individual gets there.

However, what if we had somewhat of a guide while on earth to prepare us for it? 

proven, not empirically no,  but it makes logical sense.

Your logical sense.  Not mine. Who says my consciousness doesn't suffer any pain ? Who says my consciousness ends at my death ? That is called a belief. You're right it can't be proven.  The only "proofs" that exist lie in the realm of mathamatics. 

Actually a lot of the religious things can be proven wrong. The point is, people who believe wouldn't accept arguments crossing their belief.

The human body is just a busy bee the entire life ... an impressive complex organic system.

The entire organ failure and body decay will result in exactly one thing: Not being anymore. Hence the quoted question is suggestive and not a question one can ask ... except in case of a religious context.

Actually not. We're getting into semantics here. Nothing can be proven as true,  except for mathamatical equations. You can not "prove" to me the earth is round. Only give evidence it must be so.

Next. You all seem to completely mistake my tongue in cheek comment about dead people talking. Think about it. If you think it is in any way a religeous reference, you're off your rocker.

HAHAHAHA.....YA GOT ME!!!  

actually what I wrote is exactly the point when it comes to religion and proving something.

You can think so, but this way you are erasing all serious methods in science able to deal with this.

btw. except for mathmatical equations? Are you aware that you can't draw a strict line around mathmatics and many other theoretical science scientists have to deal with.

I didn't say nor did I imply this. Read my last sentence again, only in a religious context people assert things to dead bodys. If you do so, I don't know.

Formally, the scientific method is a system of falsifiable hypothesis.  This means a given scientific theory must be phrased in such a way that contrary evidence can disprove it.  That means, formally nothing is ever really proven, only disproven.

However, one popular interpretation of the scientific method allows you to say that some hypothesis are "true" or "correct" within a given problem domain.  For example, Newton's Laws of Motion are "true" within the problem domain of normal objects here on planet Earth, because we have tested them in thousands of different ways.  We now know that near the speed of light or near infinite densities, Newton's Laws of Motion start to break down - instead you have to use Einstein's General Theory of Relativity.  But, here on Earth, its fair to say that Newton's Laws of Motion are "true" in every normal sense of that word.

Jeff Nelson

That's correct and this implies that you can't catch the reality entirely, not to 100%. So one could never say 100% sure the earth is a sphere. You can only rely on things researched so far without being proved wrong. So long the results represent the closest approuch modelling the world / universe we live in.

So my words you started to reply --> Actually a lot of the religious things can be proven wrong.

Also I added the core-problem when it comes to disproving religious things, the belief which is not 'compatible' with arguments undermining the belief.

One step further this is the reason why in any internet forum religious topics are discussed very hot and never with a good outcome and maybe the reason why this topic is not allowed here. I'll leave it that way.

Good point! I would go further by saying without death no life.

i disagree, they are two separate things.

If only Rocks could talk...