What is the propper "chess etiquette" for giving up a match - Chess Forums - Page 3

taticamagica

Mar 5, 2021

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#41

In this site, premoving uses your time, so I don't see any possible antic in flagging someone

CM RAU4ever

Mar 5, 2021

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#42

llama47 wrote:

@leob1608 , @rau4ever
Real games have huge increment and/or multiple time controls.

Let the kids play and worry about ridiculous 1|0 games. No one will remember them or care.

Of course, there is some truth in that. You'll get no argument from me about bullet. Sadly it also happens in 5+0 or even in 3+2 time controls. And those time controls are typical time controls that would be picked by older players or players that are less quick with a mouse.

I think I've said everything I wanted to in this thread.

taticamagica

Mar 5, 2021

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#43

the goal is to win, but you can play friendly and unranked games whenever you want, and not everyone gives rating the same importance you do. Drawing, losing, makes no difference at all.

taticamagica

Mar 5, 2021

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#44

I don't see how losing by flag would harm old people

blueemu

Mar 5, 2021

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#45

leob1608 wrote:

I don't see how losing by flag would harm old people

What if they spill their Geritol?

taticamagica

Mar 5, 2021

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#46

You suddenly started talking like I don't care for old and disabled people, and like I'm not friendly to community, all I did was encourage a begginer to play on even after a blunder LOL

Jenium

Mar 5, 2021

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#47

Martin_Stahl wrote:

lsoranco wrote:

Hello, I am a noobie, as you probably can see from my profile. I've been playing a lot this week, but still have a lot to learn.

A couple of days ago I had a bit of a rough moment with another player in my rating. He used the chat to ask me to give up the match (I was at a clear disadvantaged, the match would have finished already with any experienced player). I argued that people from our rating should be practing how to force a checkmate as well, but I ended up giving up the match on the next round.

So I would like to know if there are some expected rules in relation to that. I understand that it is very boring forcing a checkmate with a queen and a king, especially when both parts involved know what they are doing, but it is not always the case in my rating, I've played matches where the opponent clearly didn't know how to force a checkmate. Should I give up the match even in this case? Is it against fair play to try to win by the clock if the other person is also a begginer?

Thank you for your attention in advanced

Resign when you feel you have nothing left to play for. If you think your opponent may have problems checkmating, or you can't see how you could be mated and want to learn, play on.

If you were playing OTB, where you could discuss with your opponent after the game, that decision may be different. Playing on in a completely lost game, may limit the likelihood of being able to get pointers from your opponent.

I resign when I know I have no chances and feel my opponent will have no problems converting to mate. But no one is under an obligation to resign

I agree. I resign, when I am absolutely convinced that I will lose. Of course, at rating 800 there is a lot of room to blunder, so not resigning at all might be justified...

TheHarbingerOfDoom

Mar 5, 2021

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#48

Don’t feed the troll

taticamagica

Mar 5, 2021

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#49

Who's trolling?

TheHarbingerOfDoom

Mar 5, 2021

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#50

Can’t tell you. Don’t want to feed the troll

Toviya

Mar 5, 2021

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#51

Some of the old sportsmanship has been left behind in the online chess world, with games played at very fast time controls. When time controls were very long, like 40/2, 20/1 or longer, games could easily take 6 hours or more. A lost game could literally take hours to finish if one side did not resign. Grandmasters do much the same now, OTB. Shake hands before and after, resign when the opponent has established a winning superiority on the board. Each of us has to decide on our own. So OP, do what you think is appropriate, but you have no requirement to resign if someone tells you to. Being old, I will continue to live by the old sportsmanship traditions and play the longest 1-session time controls I can find.

Toviya

Mar 5, 2021

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#52

TheHarbingerOfDoom wrote:

Can’t tell you. Don’t want to feed the troll

Lol, you and me both.

taticamagica

Mar 5, 2021

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#53

Toviya wrote:

Some of the old sportsmanship has been left behind in the online chess world, with games played at very fast time controls. When time controls were very long, like 40/2, 20/1 or longer, games could easily take 6 hours or more. A lost game could literally take hours to finish if one side did not resign. Grandmasters do much the same now, OTB. Shake hands before and after, resign when the opponent has established a winning superiority on the board. Each of us has to decide on our own. So OP, do what you think is appropriate, but you have no requirement to resign if someone tells you to. Being old, I will continue to live by the old sportsmanship traditions and play the longest 1-session time controls I can find.

I don't think there's less sportsmanship in faster time controls. Maybe less "ceremony" at each game. (I'm not a bullet player).

There is no reason to compare OTB chess with online chess. I cannot shake your hand.

I don't understand what is the problem of playing the game until the end. If there is a real winning advantage, it's your job to convert it in a win (checkmate). Choosing to resign if you don't want to play a losing game is fine, but there is no reason to a beginner do that.

I am not trolling, I am giving my opinion just like everyone else here.

As a begginer he needs to learn how to convert advantage, and this is not done by resigning games.

taticamagica

Mar 5, 2021

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#54

RAU4ever wrote:

llama47 wrote:

@leob1608 , @rau4ever
Real games have huge increment and/or multiple time controls.

Let the kids play and worry about ridiculous 1|0 games. No one will remember them or care.

Of course, there is some truth in that. You'll get no argument from me about bullet. Sadly it also happens in 5+0 or even in 3+2 time controls. And those time controls are typical time controls that would be picked by older players or players that are less quick with a mouse.

I think I've said everything I wanted to in this thread.

Do you realize that controling a mouse is much easier to elders than playing blitz chess otb?

lsoranco

Mar 5, 2021

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#55

leob1608 escreveu:

Toviya wrote:

Some of the old sportsmanship has been left behind in the online chess world, with games played at very fast time controls. When time controls were very long, like 40/2, 20/1 or longer, games could easily take 6 hours or more. A lost game could literally take hours to finish if one side did not resign. Grandmasters do much the same now, OTB. Shake hands before and after, resign when the opponent has established a winning superiority on the board. Each of us has to decide on our own. So OP, do what you think is appropriate, but you have no requirement to resign if someone tells you to. Being old, I will continue to live by the old sportsmanship traditions and play the longest 1-session time controls I can find.

I don't think there's less sportsmanship in faster time controls. Maybe less "ceremony" at each game. (I'm not a bullet player).

There is no reason to compare OTB chess with online chess. I cannot shake your hand.

I don't understand what is the problem of playing the game until the end. If there is a real winning advantage, it's your job to convert it in a win (checkmate). Choosing to resign if you don't want to play a losing game is fine, but there is no reason to a beginner do that.

I am not trolling, I am giving my opinion just like everyone else here.

As a begginer he needs to learn how to convert advantage, and this is not done by resigning games.

Yes, that was my sentiment as well, but as I am new to this community. Thank you for your time