I've followed the discussion in this thread and understand Lichess generally has higher ratings until around 2100. What I don't understand is the following:
A rating of 1675 in rapid puts me in the 98.4% percentile at chessdotcom
A rating of 1868 at lichess puts me in the 81.2% percentile. To reach 98.4% you would need a Lichess rating of around 2300. That's a nearly 600 point gap for percentiles.
What conclusion can be drawn from the percentiles/rating comparison between sites? Does it mean there is a 600pt difference in rapid rating, or does it mean the Lichess pool of players are better on average than chess.com? I assumed, wrongly I guess, that I would have a similar percentile between sites (it's gradually creeping up at Lichess), but I have a hard time believing I will eventually reach 2300 at Lichess.
Thanks for any insights you can provide!
No, the rating pools are different, I have always been better than a bigger percentage of chess.com players than lichess players. When it comes to rapid ratings, chess.com I am rated 1850 rapid which puts me in the 99.6%, while on lichess I am rated 2150 rapid which puts me in the 96.2%.
When it comes to blitz ratings, on this website I am rated 1800, I am better than 98.2% of players here, while on lichess I am 2000 blitz and I am better than 87.3% players there.
And to also add to that, my blitz and rapid ratings differ drastically on lichess lol. 1100 blitz, 1400 rapid on lichess. blitz online in general is the most popular and competitive time format. but I think chess.com has way more bullet players compared to other time controls, then lichess does. And arguable bullet is the most competitive here, especially when we see it is what all the GM's and streamers prefer.
So do you think Rapid is less competitve then Rapid? If so, why do you think that? Because of less players?
I assume you meant rapid is less competitive then blitz. Yes absolutely. Because of less players and the general skill level of the players. On chess.com bullet would be the most competitive because it was the most skilled players prefer. To confirm we can see that the skill rating is highest there and the gap is widest.
I believe part of it is not only the popularity but because rapid is usually is what people like you falsely recommend beginners to play to get better at blitz and bullet lol. So if we are to break down the playerbase, most beginners are playing rapid, more advanced players are playing bullet. I don't know why this is news to you.
Can we keep the discusion to what I asked. No need to add insults. If you feel that Rapid people is less skillful. Wouldnt ranking up fixing that. Like the games get harder the higher you climb. No need to compare the rating number between Blitz and Rapid. Because it is diffrent pools. Just like Lichess and chess.com is diffrent pool. And I know you wouldnt say that people is less skillfull because of lower rating numbers on chess.com then Lichess. So why claim that Rapid players is less skillfull the Blitz players based on the rating numbers?
of course but I don't see your point? But first of all when you run into provisional accounts, which I never see at all in blitz at all, that makes things less accurate. But the point is that there is a reason most people have higher ratings in rapid and classical then they do in blitz, on both sites, but even more drastically so on lichess. Not only cause its easier with more time to think for most of us, but because the competition is weaker, and because it has less players.
What you are doing now is admitting that. Do you understand the concept at all? <<< not intentionally insulting you, just a lack of patience, which is my problem in chess too lol
Sorry I dont follow the last sentence. What concept are you refering to?
competitive sport. You don't truly what understand what that means. When you say wouldn't ranking up fix the issue. You don't understand that is irrelevant to the point I made. And you are confirming as you said "ranking up", meaning higher ratings, exist more in that time control. When you say ranking up, you are confirming it is less competitive.
But we can't argue chess.com is more competitive then lichess due to ratings. or the fact it has more GM's playing. Because it is a different rating system and a different playerbase. Also when you we judge by percentile of the same player playing on both sites that doesn't always equate. And that can also be argued due to the difference in systems in place.
No I mean if you find Rapid to easy ranking up should fix the issue. Then your opponent will be more skillfull.


I've followed the discussion in this thread and understand Lichess generally has higher ratings until around 2100. What I don't understand is the following:
A rating of 1675 in rapid puts me in the 98.4% percentile at chessdotcom
A rating of 1868 at lichess puts me in the 81.2% percentile. To reach 98.4% you would need a Lichess rating of around 2300. That's a nearly 600 point gap for percentiles.
What conclusion can be drawn from the percentiles/rating comparison between sites? Does it mean there is a 600pt difference in rapid rating, or does it mean the Lichess pool of players are better on average than chess.com? I assumed, wrongly I guess, that I would have a similar percentile between sites (it's gradually creeping up at Lichess), but I have a hard time believing I will eventually reach 2300 at Lichess.
Thanks for any insights you can provide!
No, the rating pools are different, I have always been better than a bigger percentage of chess.com players than lichess players. When it comes to rapid ratings, chess.com I am rated 1850 rapid which puts me in the 99.6%, while on lichess I am rated 2150 rapid which puts me in the 96.2%.
When it comes to blitz ratings, on this website I am rated 1800, I am better than 98.2% of players here, while on lichess I am 2000 blitz and I am better than 87.3% players there.
And to also add to that, my blitz and rapid ratings differ drastically on lichess lol. 1100 blitz, 1400 rapid on lichess. blitz online in general is the most popular and competitive time format. but I think chess.com has way more bullet players compared to other time controls, then lichess does. And arguable bullet is the most competitive here, especially when we see it is what all the GM's and streamers prefer.
So do you think Rapid is less competitve then Rapid? If so, why do you think that? Because of less players?
I assume you meant rapid is less competitive then blitz. Yes absolutely. Because of less players and the general skill level of the players. On chess.com bullet would be the most competitive because it was the most skilled players prefer. To confirm we can see that the skill rating is highest there and the gap is widest.
I believe part of it is not only the popularity but because rapid is usually is what people like you falsely recommend beginners to play to get better at blitz and bullet lol. So if we are to break down the playerbase, most beginners are playing rapid, more advanced players are playing bullet. I don't know why this is news to you.
Can we keep the discusion to what I asked. No need to add insults. If you feel that Rapid people is less skillful. Wouldnt ranking up fixing that. Like the games get harder the higher you climb. No need to compare the rating number between Blitz and Rapid. Because it is diffrent pools. Just like Lichess and chess.com is diffrent pool. And I know you wouldnt say that people is less skillfull because of lower rating numbers on chess.com then Lichess. So why claim that Rapid players is less skillfull the Blitz players based on the rating numbers?
of course but I don't see your point? But first of all when you run into provisional accounts, which I never see at all in blitz at all, that makes things less accurate. But the point is that there is a reason most people have higher ratings in rapid and classical then they do in blitz, on both sites, but even more drastically so on lichess. Not only cause its easier with more time to think for most of us, but because the competition is weaker, and because it has less players.
What you are doing now is admitting that. Do you understand the concept at all? <<< not intentionally insulting you, just a lack of patience, which is my problem in chess too lol
Sorry I dont follow the last sentence. What concept are you refering to?