what made fischer so much better at his time?

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buddy3

I know this is away from Fischer, but it might have some bearing on the myth about the man.  I said previously that Morphy probably thought blacks were inferior.  I assumed that because he was from an aristocratic family in New Orleans...and we know the worth of assumptions.  I don't even know if his family owned any slaves prior to Civil War.  That he wasn't a successful lawyer because of his anti-war stance, I see no evidence of that.  I read somewher that he even hung out his shingle in New York with the same miserable results.  Maybe he just didn't have what it takes to be a good lawyer.  And i'm not talking about knowledge of the law, i'm talking about self-promotion, skills at handling people.  Getting back to Fischer.  I think he also lacked those same skills.  He had through great effort become best in his field and had begun to think that it was all a waste of time.  Morphy had lawyering to fall backon (he thought).  Fischer, from his point of view, had nothing.

TheOldReb
buddy3 wrote:

I know this is away from Fischer, but it might have some bearing on the myth about the man.  I said previously that Morphy probably thought blacks were inferior.  I assumed that because he was from an aristocratic family in New Orleans...and we know the worth of assumptions.  I don't even know if his family owned any slaves prior to Civil War.  That he wasn't a successful lawyer because of his anti-war stance, I see no evidence of that.  I read somewher that he even hung out his shingle in New York with the same miserable results.  Maybe he just didn't have what it takes to be a good lawyer.  And i'm not talking about knowledge of the law, i'm talking about self-promotion, skills at handling people.  Getting back to Fischer.  I think he also lacked those same skills.  He had through great effort become best in his field and had begun to think that it was all a waste of time.  Morphy had lawyering to fall backon (he thought).  Fischer, from his point of view, had nothing.


 If you are the best in the world at something why do you need something to "fall back on " ?  Are these questions asked about such people as Beethoven, Bach, Ali, Michael Jordan, Michael Angelo ??

zankfrappa

Post 27 deals with Bobby Fischer myths.

This notion that he was a loser recluse with no people skills is just not true.

Yes, in his later years he was a sad, angry, mean-spirited recluse who said
many things I disagree with completely.

In his heydey, he was tall, handsome, dated gorgeous women and enjoyed
American sports.  If he played in his prime today he would be on TMZ and Entertainment Tonight just like Tom Cruise.

He also would have had no problem getting a job as a chess commentator.  He
would be in demand!!!

Howard Hughes did not live his entire life a recluse.

And Morphy lived in a very different era and economy, so being a lawyer
then was quite different than today.

The fact remains they were both greatly beloved in their respective times.



VikingRage

I respect Fischer through and through. No need to look further as to why he was good other than his famous qoute "Chess is life". Fischer was right, he dedicated 98% of himself to Chess while others only game 2%.

Himself as a person he looked at the world from a different perspective. He just didn't realize, or maybe he did, that sometimes things are better left unsaid even if they have a tiny grain of truth to it from his views on School, Chess, Jews, Woman and Politics.

I grew up knowing that Fischer was the best when I was very young. When I discovered Paul Morphy I was extremely interested with his style of play. Then I found out that Fischer liked Morphy too, and Morphy was American! As I researched the life of the two their lives are similar. Interesting fact I know about Fischer is that he died at age 64! The same number of squares on a chessboard. As Kasparov said Fischer is a man mixed with myth like a centaur.

RIP Robert 

odessian

Of course "vikingrage", it's just a different prespective to claim that Jews stole all of his comics books, Jews rule the world and that American deserved 9/11. Fischer was mentally ill ***hole.

VikingRage
odessian wrote:

Of course "vikingrage", it's just a different prespective to claim that Jews stole all of his comics books, Jews rule the world and that American deserved 9/11. Fischer was mentally ill ***hole.


I don't want to get into a political debate on a Chess Forum unless there is a specific lobby for that. Also to have you know my name is from Age of Empires 2 when I use to play on the msn zone if you have heard of that game. Feel free to message me if you want to discuss this further.

odessian

I am sorry I don't play this game nor making political statements. I just quoted Fischer's interview to a Philipino radio.