What rating are titled players?

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HEDGIECHESS

What rating are titled players like CM is 2000 ect...

ChampoftheBepoCamp

Fide Titles

2200 CM

2300 FM

2400 IM

2500 GM

2700 SGM (not official titledwink.png but top 40 rated chess players are the only amount so like elite of the elites territory lol)

HEDGIECHESS

thanks!

ChampoftheBepoCamp

LEL

HEDGIECHESS

wait what about NM?

ChampoftheBepoCamp
HEDGIECHESS wrote:

wait what about NM?

The ratings above are based on the ratings of FIDE (International governing body of Chess)

The USCF (United States Chess Federation) has a different rating pool... National Master are for people who are rated 2200 USCF

zes0460
HEDGIECHESS wrote:

wait what about NM?

some people think NM is not a real title

HEDGIECHESS
ChampoftheCommieCamp wrote:
HEDGIECHESS wrote:

wait what about NM?

The ratings above are based on the ratings of FIDE (International governing body of Chess)

The USCF (United States Chess Federation) has a different rating pool... National Master are for people who are rated 2200 USCF

you wrote CM is 2200 and now you said NM is 2200 so which one is it?

ChampoftheBepoCamp

NM : USCF rating 2200

CM : Fide rating 2200

Gymstar

thanks

ChampoftheBepoCamp
blitz2009 wrote:
I played against a NM and WON in RAPID because I am pro:)

UM

HEDGIECHESS

what about CM in USCF?

llama47
HEDGIECHESS wrote:

what about CM in USCF?

CM is an international title given by FIDE.

USCF is a national organization.

Sure there is a "candidate master" designation (not title) in USCF, but it's... how to say it simply... it's not a "real" thing so it's not worth talking about tongue.png

KeSetoKaiba
HEDGIECHESS wrote:

What rating are titled players like CM is 2000 ect...

Although there are rating guidelines where certain titles tend to be rated within a certain range, most titles are not dependent on ratings; they are based on something called "norms." Basically it is a set of "tests" or "criterion" which the player must complete to reach said title. One of those is usually a specific record against peers of the title they are aiming for. 

If you want to become a GM, then you must play a certain number of GMs with good success. If you want to become an IM, then you must play a certain number of IMs with good success. It kind of sounds intuitive though; you wouldn't want a GM who can't beat other GMs grin.png

The specifics of each criterion depends on which title you are going for.

qpau

NM title is earned at a specific rating, usually 2200 set by one's country. Sometimes it is different for each countries chess federations

KeSetoKaiba
bdchess617 wrote:

NM title is earned at a specific rating, usually 2200 set by one's country. Sometimes it is different for each countries chess federations

+1 NM and the infamous CM title are the only ones potentially rating based but everything after this requires norms. GM is a good example of this. Although most GMs tend to be 2400+, the rating alone is not a requirement - just that the criterion to meet is so difficult that 2400+ rating is generally required. 

mpaetz

     NM (national master) titles are given by national federations (like USCF) rather than FIDE. Different national federations have different standards.

     "Candidate Master" titles exist in some countries. Sometimes this means the same as "Expert" in USCF--someone near but not totally qualified for the "Master" title. Some countries have additional criteria that must be met to be called master so players that reach the required rating may be called candidate masters for awhile. In the Soviet Union people who earned the title "Master of Sport" got paid positions in their field so there were other non-sport (educational, age, job training) requirements. Master-strength players who hadn't finished the other requirements were referred to as candidate masters. So there are a lot of different answers to that question.

     The ratings given for IM and GM titles are the minimums necessary to qualify, but just reaching that rating is insufficient to get the title. The player must also score a minimum % in a minimum number of games in a minimum number of tournaments. And FIDE will sometimes give out titles in "special circumstances" to someone who has not strictly met all the requirements. This may happen in nations with very little chess activity, limiting the availability sufficiently strong tournaments tot qualify as IM or GM. Nona Gaprindashvili got the GM title even though she fell one game short of the minimum because organizers didn't invite women to strong tournaments at that time. And Mikhail Tal was named GM just before his first world-championship match even though he hadn't played in enough international events to qualify, only playing in USSR events.

KeSetoKaiba
mpaetz wrote:

     NM (national master) titles are given by national federations (like USCF) rather than FIDE. Different national federations have different standards.

     "Candidate Master" titles exist in some countries. Sometimes this means the same as "Expert" in USCF--someone near but not totally qualified for the "Master" title. Some countries have additional criteria that must be met to be called master so players that reach the required rating may be called candidate masters for awhile. In the Soviet Union people who earned the title "Master of Sport" got paid positions in their field so there were other non-sport (educational, age, job training) requirements. Master-strength players who hadn't finished the other requirements were referred to as candidate masters. So there are a lot of different answers to that question.

     The ratings given for IM and GM titles are the minimums necessary to qualify, but just reaching that rating is insufficient to get the title. The player must also score a minimum % in a minimum number of games in a minimum number of tournaments. And FIDE will sometimes give out titles in "special circumstances" to someone who has not strictly met all the requirements. This may happen in nations with very little chess activity, limiting the availability sufficiently strong tournaments tot qualify as IM or GM. Nona Gaprindashvili got the GM title even though she fell one game short of the minimum because organizers didn't invite women to strong tournaments at that time. And Mikhail Tal was named GM just before his first world-championship match even though he hadn't played in enough international events to qualify, only playing in USSR events.

+1 Long answer I was avoiding to type out, but this is correct.

llama47
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

NM and the infamous CM title are the only ones potentially rating based but everything after this requires norms.

FM doesn't require a norm.

KeSetoKaiba
llama47 wrote:
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

NM and the infamous CM title are the only ones potentially rating based but everything after this requires norms.

FM doesn't require a norm.

Oh yeah, forgot about FM grin.png