what to do when your opponent refuses drawing when its pawn + king vs. king

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CJBas
The same thing you do when your opponent refuses a draw any other time; play it out.
Majnu2006

1. wait for 3x same position and claim a draw.

or

2. wait for 50 moves without a pawn move and claim draw.

...and please change your profile picture. ;-)

 


x-5058622868

Force your opponent to take the pawn.

Attempt to stalemate your opponent. 


Queenie
What would you like to do?
rcholmes
Queenie wrote: What would you like to do?

Bungee jump naked.


chessplooge
that looks to me like black could get a queen and win the game, yes?
Queenie
rcholmes wrote: Queenie wrote: What would you like to do?

Bungee jump naked.


Wow....... when you do, give us a shout..... I'll gather up the girls and we'll come along to cheer you on..............Hurray....  hurray... (just tuning up ready)


littleman
NO he cant win this is meant to be a draw. In king and pawn endings like this if it leads to check its generally a draw and black would need his king infront of the pawn in opposition (king faces king) so in this case blacks 65th move would be Kf3  66. Kf1...g2+ 67.Kg1 with no way to promote his pawn. As for what to do NOTHING u cant make them accept it so if they want to continue then play it out untill they see it really is a draw by stalemate!....Cool
Jaguarphd
This can be easily won by black 0_o
littleman
Jaguarphd wrote:
This can be easily won by black 0_o

I got news for u no it cant and i will show u why.


x-5058622868
Heh, i looked at the game the wrong way. I thought the person that posted this was playing black. Playing white, just play it out.
Nilesh021
This is an easy win.
littleman
Sunshiny wrote: Heh, i looked at the game the wrong way. I thought the person that posted this was playing black. Playing white, just play it out.
Your right! but none the less its still a drawn game. There is no way for black to make in-roads unless white really stuffs up....Cool

x-5058622868
Nilesh wrote: This is an easy win.

 Only if you consider a draw a win.


Marshal_Dillon
Nilesh wrote: This is an easy win.

 Please back up your words with a diagram. I'm sure we'd all like to learn how to turn a draw into a win.Black CANNOT win because in order to queen the pawn, the king has to be able to take command of the g1 square. As long as white retains control over that square, it is a draw.


TheAOD
Jaguarphd wrote: This can be easily won by black 0_o

 I thought so too, but with correct play by white there is no way black can force a promotion.  It seems that white has to keep on g1, g2, and h1 until repitition draws or check is called and then move the king to g1.  At this point black will always have to protect at g3 or lose the pawn; unfortunately for black this means that the white king cannot move qed stalemate.

The only way black can "easily" win is if white makes the unfortunate mistake of moving to h2 or f2. Even then black has to be in the correct position to capitalize.

It should be mentioned that my analysis may not be perfect and anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Anthony 


TheAOD

How do you guys post those cool diagrams?

 


dragondorf
just play it out until you get a draw
littleman
Then he shouldnt have put it on the forum and should be told off for it because what he done was illegal not what we done! I assumed him to be honest will remember to check next time....Cool