What USCF rating does G25 + 5 affect?

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krazeechess

Does it affect my regular rating? Does it affect my quick rating? Does it affect both? I don't know. Please answer, I have a tournament coming up and I really need to know so I can decide whether to register or not.

blueemu

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Under US Chess policy, events that are played at a total time control of Game/30 through Game/65 (ie, each player has a total of 30-65 minutes, including the increment or delay setting) must be rated as both regular and quick chess events. This is not an option, all events that are played at those time controls will be dual-rated.

Frequently Asked Questions: Member Services Area | US Chess.org

So including the move-increment, this tournament will qualify and will be dual-rated.

krazeechess
blueemu wrote:

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Under US Chess policy, events that are played at a total time control of Game/30 through Game/65 (ie, each player has a total of 30-65 minutes, including the increment or delay setting) must be rated as both regular and quick chess events. This is not an option, all events that are played at those time controls will be dual-rated.

Frequently Asked Questions: Member Services Area | US Chess.org

So including the move-increment, this tournament will qualify and will be dual-rated.

One question. Why is 25 + 5 counted as more (or same) than G30? Does the 5 seconds of increment count as 5 minutes?

blueemu

Actually, I'm not sure. With an increment of five seconds, a 60-move game would equal 30 minutes.

blueemu

Found it!

- The duration of the first time-control must be at least 30 minutes for each player. The first period may be sudden death. If a non-sudden death control is used, the rate of play must be equal to or slower than an average of 60 moves per hour. Suitable minimum controls would be 30/30 or 60/60. Rule 5Fa is an option that allows the TD to shorten the basic time control in minutes by the delay in seconds for games using a digital clock with delay. When this option is mandated, the initial control, not the shortened control will govern under which system the event is rated. A G/30 ( 5 second delay) with the control shortened to G/25 for the games using a delay will still be rated in the regular system.

Allowable Time Controls (uschess.org)

krazeechess
blueemu wrote:

Found it!

- The duration of the first time-control must be at least 30 minutes for each player. The first period may be sudden death. If a non-sudden death control is used, the rate of play must be equal to or slower than an average of 60 moves per hour. Suitable minimum controls would be 30/30 or 60/60. Rule 5Fa is an option that allows the TD to shorten the basic time control in minutes by the delay in seconds for games using a digital clock with delay. When this option is mandated, the initial control, not the shortened control will govern under which system the event is rated. A G/30 ( 5 second delay) with the control shortened to G/25 for the games using a delay will still be rated in the regular system.

Allowable Time Controls (uschess.org)

So basically my tournament, which is G25 + 5, will be rated in regular rating and quick rating?

blueemu

If they follow those published USCF rules, yes.

krazeechess
blueemu wrote:

If they follow those published USCF rules, yes.

Thank you for your help.

NobleElevator

Thanks, that actually helped me a lot (even though I didn't make this forum lol) @blueemu

Martin_Stahl
krazeechess wrote:
blueemu wrote:

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Under US Chess policy, events that are played at a total time control of Game/30 through Game/65 (ie, each player has a total of 30-65 minutes, including the increment or delay setting) must be rated as both regular and quick chess events. This is not an option, all events that are played at those time controls will be dual-rated.

Frequently Asked Questions: Member Services Area | US Chess.org

So including the move-increment, this tournament will qualify and will be dual-rated.

One question. Why is 25 + 5 counted as more (or same) than G30? Does the 5 seconds of increment count as 5 minutes?

 

For all US Chess time controls  you always add the base time control to the increment/delay (in minutes) to find out how it is rated.


For OTB:

Blitz: 5 to 10 (with a minimum base of 3 minutes)

Quick Only: 11-29

Dual (Quick and Regular): 30-65

Regular: 66+

 

For Online events, there is no Dual rating so that category is Online Regular rated.

krazeechess
Martin_Stahl wrote:
krazeechess wrote:
blueemu wrote:

Copied from new.uschess.org :

Under US Chess policy, events that are played at a total time control of Game/30 through Game/65 (ie, each player has a total of 30-65 minutes, including the increment or delay setting) must be rated as both regular and quick chess events. This is not an option, all events that are played at those time controls will be dual-rated.

Frequently Asked Questions: Member Services Area | US Chess.org

So including the move-increment, this tournament will qualify and will be dual-rated.

One question. Why is 25 + 5 counted as more (or same) than G30? Does the 5 seconds of increment count as 5 minutes?

 

For all US Chess time controls  you always add the base time control to the increment/delay (in minutes) to find out how it is rated.


For OTB:

Blitz: 5 to 10 (with a minimum base of 3 minutes)

Quick Only: 11-29

Dual (Quick and Regular): 30-65

Regular: 66+

 

For Online events, there is no Dual rating so that category is Online Regular rated.

Oh ok. Thanks a lot!

ivanluxu
blueemu wrote:

If they follow those published USCF rules, yes.

Thanks for your help!