What will be the impact of chess being solved?

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zborg

Like turkeys in a rainstorm?

1shtar

i agree.. im a newbie at chess.. and it doesn't matter to me.. for me chess is just a fun game to past the time.. meet new people..have a few laughs.It will in the end come down to who makes the frist mistake, no matter how minor it is, that will loose the game.

bigpoison
nameno1had wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

Heh, I think you're paraphrasing.  "I have had many people tell me they don't like to talk to me because, I think too much"

Help me out here, walk me though a conversation (without paraphrasing) that leads to the statement "I don't enjoy talking to you because you think to much"

To quote one verbatim would be a bit of a task at the moment but, if the conversation involves anything having to do "one thing" that has multiple facets, that each could require a 10 minute or so conversation to get them up to speed, so that they even understand when I try to make a simple statement, that otherwise makes no sense to them or they refuse to give any merit to because, I can't either reach into my pocket for something or use three words to prove it.

My wife wonders why I don't enjoy talking to her about other people's affairs or how work went. It isn't that I don't care, but normally I have my mind on so many other things, that are far more involved that, she can't stand that can normally finish her sentences or know what all she will tell me, after the first 5 words.

Ocassionally I will miss something that was a bit of a plot twist and when I do she doesn't let me forget it. She hates it that I tell her she could have told me what she was surprising me with more directly and that we then could have engaged in a conversation about it, but I guess she would rather try to decide each step for my brain or atleast it seems that way. She gets angry that I like to spend so much time here enjoying my nerdfest, I particularly think she is affraid I will find a female friend I enjoy talking to. I have noticed her tendency to get jealous even if I talk to a woman who lives half way around the world. I have a joke for that but, its too "long" for this post...

You likely misheard.  I think folks don't like talking to you, not because you think too much; rather, because you talk too much.

zborg

Didn't you mean quote too much, and write too much?

You might be guilty of the former.  Smile

ilikeflags

more is always better 

ilikeflags

or

Ryan390

Even if Chess were solved,

approx 4,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 possible permutations in a middle game? - Then I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to memorise the correct sequence for each of the moves so what does it matter??

 

Chess will always be chess..

ponz111

It is not going to be completely solved as there are two many possible moves.

However almost all players master and above know the correct result with best play for both sides is a draw.

Checkers has been completely solved and there are probably data bases with all possible moves or all relevant moves. 

Checkers is , of course, a draw with best play on both sides. 

ClavierCavalier

How about 3D Chess?

nameno1had
bigpoison wrote:
nameno1had wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

Heh, I think you're paraphrasing.  "I have had many people tell me they don't like to talk to me because, I think too much"

Help me out here, walk me though a conversation (without paraphrasing) that leads to the statement "I don't enjoy talking to you because you think to much"

To quote one verbatim would be a bit of a task at the moment but, if the conversation involves anything having to do "one thing" that has multiple facets, that each could require a 10 minute or so conversation to get them up to speed, so that they even understand when I try to make a simple statement, that otherwise makes no sense to them or they refuse to give any merit to because, I can't either reach into my pocket for something or use three words to prove it.

My wife wonders why I don't enjoy talking to her about other people's affairs or how work went. It isn't that I don't care, but normally I have my mind on so many other things, that are far more involved that, she can't stand that can normally finish her sentences or know what all she will tell me, after the first 5 words.

Ocassionally I will miss something that was a bit of a plot twist and when I do she doesn't let me forget it. She hates it that I tell her she could have told me what she was surprising me with more directly and that we then could have engaged in a conversation about it, but I guess she would rather try to decide each step for my brain or atleast it seems that way. She gets angry that I like to spend so much time here enjoying my nerdfest, I particularly think she is affraid I will find a female friend I enjoy talking to. I have noticed her tendency to get jealous even if I talk to a woman who lives half way around the world. I have a joke for that but, its too "long" for this post...

You likely misheard.  I think folks don't like talking to you, not because you think too much; rather, because you talk too much.

You missed the part where I stated directly and indirectly that some people only want to talk about nothing, but I prefer to make my endeavors worthwhile... You obviously like to try to belittle people who did nothing to you. I guess you think you are smarter than others and like to point out their short comings as you see them. Its a shame yourself esteem is so bad. I am going to make it worse by telling you that you aren't very good at belittling someone either, I guess you aren't smart enough...I guess its back to the drawing board...

nameno1had
TheGrobe wrote:

Having something to talk about isn't the same thing as having something to say.

Why didn't you apply that logic earlier, to your ideas. This thread would have been better.

nameno1had
zborg wrote:

Didn't you mean quote too much, and write too much?

You might be guilty of the former.  

My wife thinks so, I guess she would rather I talk too much about nothing...go figure...

ilikeflags
nameno1had wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Having something to talk about isn't the same thing as having something to say.

Why didn't you apply that logic earlier, to your ideas. This thread would have been better.

oh snap!

bdn512

Chess will never be solved. There are more combinations of moves before move 40 than atoms in the universe.

ilikeflags
bdn512 wrote:

Chess will never be solved. 

Neslanovac

As far is chess being solved q. : If every atom in known universe was a comp. that calculates 1 million positions per sec. from the beginning of the time till today they would not pass the move 30 so...

bobbyDK
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Ryan390

The problem with having a computer 'solve' this problem is that the algorithm they run by isn't always perfect. It's proven that computers sometimes miss subtle nuances in the position that only human behaviour can recognize.

Secondly, people wouldn't be able to remember the trillions upon trillions of combinations during a real game. (Have you ever memorised all opening moves/variations?) - No. 

It would be interesting to see how far it goes, but I highly doubt it will ever happen. 

knightrider25

What will be the impact of chess being solved?

"There is a theory which states.....the Universe will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened."

But...

The Super-Computer Deep Thought says the Answer is...


 

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

 

And Another Thing... 


Don't forget your towel.

 

Tongue out Smile

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

atarw

People will play dubious moves because the opponent won't waste time memorizing the refute.