What's the difference between a Super GM and a GM?

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pestebalcanica wrote:

Inflation, not to mention some social norms and animosities among genders.

Thanks for clarifying, because I didn't know if that was what you were getting at. I would think a lot of these things could affect it in either direction, which would be hard to determine, and I would think most of these effects would be pretty minor. One could even say a 1500 in one region of the US isn't the same as a 1500 in another region of the US depending on the player pool, but I would expect it to be a very insignificant difference.

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"I would go down to those who are a consistent ~2670."

If anything I would probably go a bit above 2700. I just see a lot of random sounding names in the 2700s who I haven't heard of before, and don't seem to be in true contact with the elite.

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It is easier to find two men of the same rating with unequal strength than two women. A GM can be much weaker than its fellow counterpart, we are always talking of a rating that exceeds 2500 obviously.  Not so among women, not that much for sure. Yes, the Chinese syndrome, the random names you were mentioning. But the same thing happens among men.

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only a super gm can answe these

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Elubas wrote:

"I would go down to those who are a consistent ~2670."

If anything I would probably go a bit above 2700. I just see a lot of random sounding names in the 2700s who I haven't heard of before, and don't seem to be in true contact with the elite.

Well, I would consider those players ~2750+ to be "World Class" players or "World Championship contenders."

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Among well established names I prefer a super GM. Hope I made myself clear, with no intention of downgrading anyone, and anyway what makes a super GM or not on my part is something solely for me to judge.

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In strenght? In understnaing? Answers such as "200 rating points" are useless. 

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I'm not looking solely at someone's rating or performance if that's what you were asking. There's a rating inflation going on, that's for sure. Too many random names playing each other.

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No I don't think you can be sure about that. Not just by intuition or something. You would want to compare the quality of play (by using engine analysis for example) of people of one group to the group that's supposedly inflated. Studies like that have been done before and sometimes they find that the quality of play is the same.

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They just know better the game...

Openings (maybe the side they know better) and endgames specially.

They work more (because usually it is their job, so they have time to do it), they usually have secondants to help them (because they have finances, due to sponsors or other things, federation helps maybe).

And they probably have more talent...

To sum up :

Work/Talent/Time/Knowledge/Finances.

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I think openings and time management, often time their games go to the last seconds where someone makes a mistep due to not enough time to think
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Google translate says ur fixation has to stop.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/hello53

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Super GMs and Superman wear their underwear outside the pants to distinguish them from normal GMs and normal men.

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Evidence please

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serious comment:

A shame; a 2100ish USCF rated does not know who is a SuperGM and who is a GM

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KID_Harish wrote:

serious comment:

A shame; a 2100ish USCF rated does not who is a SuperGM and who is a GM

Does not what?

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They put SuperGM_ on the front of their chess.com user names, instead of just GM_

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Ashvapathi wrote:

Super GMs and Superman wear their underwear outside the pants to distinguish them from normal GMs and normal men.

Aren't underwear and pants the same....  Undecided

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egoole wrote:

Aren't underwear and pants the same....  

Americans don't understand the English language Wink

Then some people go and choose to be influenced by those mentioned above who don't understand themselves...