What's the Point of Draws?

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jumper6523

Scottrf wrote:

captainyoyo22 wrote:

Draws are part of chess.  One of the three possible results.

What are the other two?

Win and lose

PlaidPawn

That's what I said!

grolk

So....after 5 pages you still don't understand?

FrodoPiano

jumper6523 wrote:

Scottrf wrote:

captainyoyo22 wrote:

Draws are part of chess.  One of the three possible results.

What are the other two?

Win and lose

You were using an iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch?

Intrinsicbarbaro

There are a few ways to win from that position. King on the six rank then jus push the prawn and the king can't stay in front of it.

Irontiger wrote:

FrodoPiano wrote:

AquilaZeta wrote:

ubuntux wrote:

The second diagram shows a draw?

it is. you can check by setting up a board and playing with yourself

Yes that is true. Look:

 

Oops :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And in the original diagram, 6.Kc6 ! wins (5...Kc8 ??? -> 5...Kd8 ! =)

FrodoPiano
Intrinsicbarbaro wrote:

There are a few ways to win from that position. King on the six rank then jus push the prawn and the king can't stay in front of it.

Irontiger wrote:

FrodoPiano wrote:

 

AquilaZeta wrote:

 

ubuntux wrote:

 

The second diagram shows a draw?

 

 

it is. you can check by setting up a board and playing with yourself

 

 

Yes that is true. Look:

 

 

 

 

Oops :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And in the original diagram, 6.Kc6 ! wins (5...Kc8 ??? -> 5...Kd8 ! =)

are you playing on a mobile device?

PlaidPawn

What do you mean?

PlaidPawn

Guys, I just want to thank you for helping me understand draws! :)

Radical_Drift
PlaidPawn wrote:

Guys, I just want to thank you for helping me understand draws! :)

You are so very welcome. I wish you the best of health and love and happiness in your life going forward. I read something earlier from chessgames.com in which a cancer survivor said something like live life while you have it, because it doesn't last. I think if we all just loved each other more, the world would be a better place. I also met a girl, which always helps :) The point is, I'm in a good mood right now. Anyways, Happy thoughts and positive thinking! :)

PlaidPawn

:)

PlaidPawn
FrodoPiano wrote:

The point of agreeing to draws if you are bored with the game and/or think that you ill end up in a draw anyway. (Or if you think you'll lose)

you mean will not ill, right? im not sick! Money Mouth<not me

Radical_Drift
PlaidPawn wrote:
FrodoPiano wrote:

The point of agreeing to draws if you are bored with the game and/or think that you ill end up in a draw anyway. (Or if you think you'll lose)

you mean will not ill, right? im not sick! <not me

Heh :)

blueemu

The American national sport is baseball, and in baseball (at least historically speaking) draws are shunned... major league teams always used to play it out to a conclusion, no matter how many extra innings it took. Not sure if this is still true. But that might explain why the OP finds draws to be an odd idea: American culture is one of winners and losers. Splitting the point seems, from that angle, to miss the point of playing a game.

Radical_Drift
blueemu wrote:

The American national sport is baseball, and in baseball (at least historically speaking) draws are shunned... major league teams always used to play it out to a conclusion, no matter how many extra innings it took. Not sure if this is still true. But that might explain why the OP finds draws to be an odd idea: American culture is one of winners and losers. Splitting the point seems, from that angle, to miss the point of playing a game.

As an American, I concur.

Tactical_Knightmare

MrDamonSmith

The point of a draw is that both players get a half point each as the result. It means that neither player won, it was an equally contested battle.

Senator-Blutarsky
PlaidPawn wrote:

Why would you want to have a draw? Wouldn't you want to just beat the other person and get a higher rating?

Apart from that awful pic in the post above me (we are now in post-pic-spam chess.com), i wanna tell you a story about a draw.

Draws were very popular in the wild west.

2 gunslingers in a showdown on a dusty road outside a saloon.

Ok enough of that.

So I was playing this guy once in round 1 of a major Irish tournament which, amazingly enough, was played in a hotel, not a bar, so it was difficult to acclimatise to the smell of no beer while playing.

Anyway i was playing this young prodigy who was really kicking butt at the time. I got into a losing position, so i had a choice. Try punking him and go for the swindle (allowing him a forced win) or go into an endgame with slim prospects.

So i played my swindle, confidently playing my big move and looking perfectly happy about it. My opponent trusted my poker face and i slipped away with a draw. i showed him his win and he was disgusted!

I won every other game in that tournament, finishing 2nd to the then Irish champion.

So when you're losing, respect the draw.

PlaidPawn
chessman1504 wrote:
PlaidPawn wrote:
FrodoPiano wrote:

The point of agreeing to draws if you are bored with the game and/or think that you ill end up in a draw anyway. (Or if you think you'll lose)

you mean will not ill, right? im not sick! <not me

Heh :)

i saw the comment and the emoticon and had to do it

BishopTARDIS

If Peyton Manning could have come back and got a draw in the Superbowl, I"m sure he would have gladly taken it. (Final score 43-8)

Senator-Blutarsky

the altar boys can play footie with the fruit ??

just sayin'.