What's Your Secret?

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madpawn

O.K, so I have been a member of chess.com for well over a year and I have reached the magic level of 2000+.  This was done through hard work on openings and some tractics training, as well as developing some positional grasp.

However, I have seen people improve from around 1700 to 2300 and even 2600 within the same period of time. It is supposed to get harder the higher you climb, so what is the secret? Can some of these elite players share with us?

DrawMaster

First, I'll assume your referring to ONLINE ratings as opposed to LIVE. That said, those ratings are about 300+ points inflated at most levels in my estimation. So, we're now talking about someone improving from about 1400 ELO to about 2300 ELO in a single year.

My opinion (if the 1400 ELO represented true initial skill): extremely unlikely, but not impossible. Just my view, for what it's worth.

Given that everyone comes in at 1200 regardless of actually playing strength, any strong player's rating will exhibit a rapid increase, however.

goldendog

I'd add this: To add 600 points in a year is quite a challenge for anyone, but certainly feasible as tested in real-world, certified otb play. Take the case of a genuine beginner who enters his first otb tournament, somewhat prepared but a true beginner, and gets a rating of 1200. One year later, after smart and hard work, he is a 1600. He might even make 1800--that's your 600 points in a year--and he would not have to be very talented to manage this.

More than that and I'd say our player has significantly more talent than the average bear (or has a very good teacher).

For an established player this would be much more difficult, though Fischer managed >500 points in a year starting in the 1700s, and then less than a year later he was US champion-well that's Fischer and there aren't many like him.

edit: when I say "true beginner" I mean a serious beginner, one has has played chess informally, perhaps a lot of it, perhaps even with so-called tournament players, not a beginner in the sense of knowing how the pieces move and a few more rudiments.

nimzo5

maybe a handful of people go from 1700 to 2100 in one year. If you peruse all the young American players- hikaru, robson, hess, etc. you dont see that big of a jump. IM Shankland might have done it I recall playing him when he was rated 1850 and the next supplement he was 2050ish...

philidorposition
madpawn wrote:

However, I have seen people improve from around 1700 to 2300 and even 2600 within the same period of time. It is supposed to get harder the higher you climb, so what is the secret?


2600 from a steady 1700 in one year sounds like cheating to me.

Madeinthemind
madpawn wrote:

O.K, so I have been a member of chess.com for well over a year and I have reached the magic level of 2000+.  This was done through hard work on openings and some tractics training, as well as developing some positional grasp.

However, I have seen people improve from around 1700 to 2300 and even 2600 within the same period of time. It is supposed to get harder the higher you climb, so what is the secret? Can some of these elite players share with us?


I read an interesting article on turn based chess being much less accurate a predictor of skill as live chess. I would assume this understanding would transfer over to the improvement curve as well.

andrewstevens

if i tell ya, youd be as smart as me, an my friends, so il give u a clue,more games and work harder!!! cuz there not alot wrong with your game!!! 

meanpc

Probably cheating involved.

vowles_23
madpawn wrote:

and some tractics training


 The hardest kind.

ilmago
madpawn wrote:

O.K, so I have been a member of chess.com for well over a year and I have reached the magic level of 2000+.  This was done through hard work on openings and some tractics training, as well as developing some positional grasp.


You already had most of that strength when you started here. That's why you rose very quickly at the beginning (to 1950+ within about two months) to almost your present rating.

In the 10 months after that, your rating has been fluctuating a bit and rising a bit, maybe by about 100 points at times. This can be an indication for the progress done by your work and improvement in chess, and maybe also an indication that you have been becoming accustomed a little more to the pace of Online Chess games.

For me, I observe something very similar. My rating here seems to settle to fluctuate somewhere around 2300 or 2400, and in the beginning, I very quickly reached 2200+ or so within 2 months.

So in general, I observe that chess.com ratings very nicely and quickly adapt to an approximately (give or more often take maybe 100 or 200 points) final value in the beginning, and after that, slower changes or fluctuations may indicate a finetuning of the rating or a reflection of what specific kind of games, tournaments or team matches you have chosen to be playing and how well that suits your style.