Martin if they won big money they can get a set floor
When did USCF take away 100 rating points from everybody?
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DarkSmile wrote:
Sub1000 wrote:
SilentKnighte5 wrote:
Anyone who wants to lose 250 games straight so they can win an U1300 tournament is welcome to do so IMO.
Extremely shortsighted. The whole point of sangbagging is to control your rating (rating management) and not taking an existing high rating and trying to dump 100's of games to play a lot lower.
If you're a 2000 rated player but are actually rated 1800, then being a sandbagger means your rating will never hit 2000 because of your "ratings management". To say that the 1800 rated player will attempt to dump 100's of games to play down to 1300 is a pretty big misunderstanding.
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I think you completely missed his point and don't understand why sandbaggers sandbag.
You think a sangbagger will dump 100's STRAIGHT of games to play down? No sandbagger does that. I think it's YOU that doesnt understand what sandbagging is. They may dump 100's of games over time, but not 100's of games in a row.
May 27, 2015
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Tarlzic wrote:
Martin if they won big money they can get a set floor
True. But not knowing how long that rule has been in effect I probably wouldn't have mentioned it even had I thought of it at the time 
Sub1000 wrote:
SilentKnighte5 wrote:
Anyone who wants to lose 250 games straight so they can win an U1300 tournament is welcome to do so IMO.
Extremely shortsighted. The whole point of sangbagging is to control your rating (rating management) and not taking an existing high rating and trying to dump 100's of games to play a lot lower.
If you're a 2000 rated player but are actually rated 1800, then being a sandbagger means your rating will never hit 2000 because of your "ratings management". To say that the 1800 rated player will attempt to dump 100's of games to play down to 1300 is a pretty big misunderstanding.
It's not a big misunderstanding, it's in response to a post made in this thread. And in the current system you can already "manage" your rating down up to 299 points. Technically nothing stopping a 1980 rated player from "managing" his rating to 1700 so he can win an U1800 tournament or an U1750 class prize. But that's only worthwhile for the big money tournaments who are looking at past results over the last year and limiting prizes or creating articial floors for the tournament.
With online chess being what it is today, it's a lot easier to just gain strength through lots of online play and study then enter a tournament as an underrated player for your section.
No $$ involved, no waste of time going to tournaments to throw games and a lot easier.
If you really wanted to cheat, you'd be better off taking that 2000 rating, getting a fake ID and PO Box, get a initial rating then go around to non-local big money tournaments, cleaning up until your rating got over 1800. Then repeat the next year with a new identity.
DamonevicSmithlov: Thanks! One of the guys is an IM so his rating probably was affected. Not sure about the other.
May 27, 2015
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I vaguely remember my USCF rating suddenly increasing 100 or so points in the late 70's. I asked one of the local TDs about it, and he said that the USCF had made some adjustments in the rating formula (and the then current ratings) because the rating distribution curve had become severely skewed. Maybe the change in the formula had a negative impact on high rated players.
With regard to the rating floor, I think it is possible to have the USCF lower your rating floor. I don't know the procedure, but you have to write to them and demonstrate that your performance level has dropped for a significant length of time (I saw this in a blurb on the USCF website a while ago. I imagine that it's still their policy).
The USCF did some pretty funny things. At one point they not only gave the Master Certificate to players rated over 2200, but also players who obtained a performance rating of 2200 (I think it was reserved for larger tournaments though)! So an 1800 player could have one great tournament and earn a master certificate.
EmberGerlach wrote:
The USCF did some pretty funny things. At one point they not only gave the Master Certificate to players rated over 2200, but also players who obtained a performance rating of 2200 (I think it was reserved for larger tournaments though)! So an 1800 player could have one great tournament and earn a master certificate.
Do you know anyone who has gotten the NM title / certificate this way ?
floors are definitely appropriate sometimes but should be reconsidered with elderly players (like make floor 300 pts from rating high over the age of 55 and 400 over the age of 65).